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Monday, August 25, 2014

RE: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

I did Lew. That's the point. I read the whole thing, not just the beginning. Maybe that's why your posts are mostly fabrication or speculation or just plain bullshit, that being that you don't read past the headline.
 

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 05:31:25 -0700
From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

I would suggest you red the article at the beginning of this thread.
 
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On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:07:41 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
Now you're drifting off subject ,yet again, as your Alzheimer's has taken your already warped mind to your little tiny garden.Bitch to get hold, huh, dumbass.
 

Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 05:09:39 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

Myh tomatoes only grow in the warmth of the summer.  Try as I  might, the plants just freeze and die in thewinter time.
 

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:11:14 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
Blow it out of your dumbass, parasite.  I've read it. The burden is on you to prove it's content. Of course you can't. Go recruit your toady, Charlie, he'll hold your hand while you piss, like he always does. BTW, what's "expl;ained"?
 

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:49:37 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

It is expl;ained in the opening atricle of this thread.
 
Read it or shut up.
 
I an't saying it again.
 

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:45:13 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
You're such a Dundsil. Explain the article that you posted and prove it's point. Did you for get your basic second grade skills? Dumbass.
 

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 05:52:26 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

Equator - Jungles
North-South Poles - Ice
 

On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:26:53 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
.....and it would take someone with a "First Grader" Intelligence Quotient " to recognize that, dumbass.Now get to the point and prove it.
 

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:13:52 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

First Graders must be smarter than you on this topic, Larry.
 
You don't qualify  for debate.
 

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:25:26 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
Nice try dumbass, still no proof. You're just caterwauling Dumbass. Don't you know if the tripe that you post is true or not?
 

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:53:46 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

It's a far truer picture than trumped up Liberal Global Warming Data.
 
It's real life.
 
Try a year in Antarctica if you prefer.
 

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:31:04 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
That's not Data,dumbass. Stick to the subject you P.O.S.
 

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:40:05 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

Move to Alaska and tll me how you make out.
 

On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:55:39 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
Do you have any hard data to prove this?
 

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 05:57:17 -0700
From: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
To: opendeb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

Climate-Cooling Policies threaten Food Supplies

 
A warmer, wetter climate with more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would undoubtedly produce more plant growth and more food.
 
However climate-cooling policies that claim to prevent global warming by throttling the use of carbon fuels will definitely reduce food supply and increase food prices.
 
The promotion of ethanol for motor fuel is anti-food. This “food for fuel” program has absorbed significant quantities of corn, soy beans, sugar and palm oils. Consequently prices for ethanol crops are higher than they would otherwise be, encouraging farmers to convert land currently devoted to grazing animals and other food crops to growing more profitable crops for ethanol.

Extreme greens also practise plant discrimination, favouring more trees at the expense of natural grasslands and open forest that support many grazing animals. These polices take many forms including planting carbon credit forests, banning regrowth clearing, anti-development zoning and blanket tree protection reserves. All such policies reduce food production from grasslands.

Climate-cooling policies also aim to decrease demand for carbon fuels, including coal, oil, gas and refined motor fuels, by increasing their costs and prices. Modern food production is totally dependent on low-priced carbon fuels for all farming activities. Diesel fuels are needed for cultivation, planting, harvesting and transport; and coal/gas powered electricity for irrigation, processing and distribution. Higher prices for carbon fuels will send some marginal farms out of business. The same policies will reduce profits and production in the fishing industry. All of these policies are anti-food.
 
Modern food production needs nitrogen fertilizer, which is made from atmospheric nitrogen and natural gas, with carbon dioxide as a by-product. Extreme greens all over the world are delaying and opposing the exploration and production of natural gas, and their carbon taxes are increasing the costs of this key fertilizer.

Finally, climate-cooling policies favour silly schemes like carbon capture and burial, which aims to pump carbon dioxide underground. The promoters should be told that current levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are below those that maximize plant growth and food production. The rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels was a major contributor to increased world food production over the last century. To bury this free plant food is not food-smart.
 
These unproven solutions to unproven problems are unlikely to change the climate. But there is a 50:50 chance that instead of warming, the globe may cool naturally, which will cause dramatic reduction in food production.
 
Food is not easily storable, and supply and demand are always finely balanced. If natural cooling comes on top of all these man-made anti-food policies, the world will see cascading food shortages.

For those who wish to read more:

The Ethanol Disaster:
http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/06/the-ethanol-disaster

The Unintended Consequences of Ethanol:
http://news.newsmax.com/?ZKORXYGhQIAlL8s41ytI6BaZUxleNLU1Z&ns_mail_uid=32310041&ns_mail_job=1566641_04272014
 
Ethanol from corn waste may release more greenhouse gases than petrol:
http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/corn-waste-fuel-not-better-than-petrol/story-e6frfkui-1226890856876?from=public_js
 
The Ethanol Disaster:
http://carbon-sense.com/2013/11/25/the-ethanol-disaster/
 
World turns against Ethanol:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/63444

Current solar cycle may be the weakest in 200 years:
http://informthepundits.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/sunspots-2014-two-big-surprises/
  
A warmer, wetter climate with more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would undoubtedly produce more plant growth and more food.
 
However climate-cooling policies that claim to prevent global warming by throttling the use of carbon fuels will definitely reduce food supply and increase food prices.
 
The promotion of ethanol for motor fuel is anti-food. This “food for fuel” program has absorbed significant quantities of corn, soy beans, sugar and palm oils. Consequently prices for ethanol crops are higher than they would otherwise be, encouraging farmers to convert land currently devoted to grazing animals and other food crops to growing more profitable crops for ethanol.

Extreme greens also practise plant discrimination, favouring more trees at the expense of natural grasslands and open forest that support many grazing animals. These polices take many forms including planting carbon credit forests, banning regrowth clearing, anti-development zoning and blanket tree protection reserves. All such policies reduce food production from grasslands.

Climate-cooling policies also aim to decrease demand for carbon fuels, including coal, oil, gas and refined motor fuels, by increasing their costs and prices. Modern food production is totally dependent on low-priced carbon fuels for all farming activities. Diesel fuels are needed for cultivation, planting, harvesting and transport; and coal/gas powered electricity for irrigation, processing and distribution. Higher prices for carbon fuels will send some marginal farms out of business. The same policies will reduce profits and production in the fishing industry. All of these policies are anti-food.
 
Modern food production needs nitrogen fertilizer, which is made from atmospheric nitrogen and natural gas, with carbon dioxide as a by-product. Extreme greens all over the world are delaying and opposing the exploration and production of natural gas, and their carbon taxes are increasing the costs of this key fertilizer.

Finally, climate-cooling policies favour silly schemes like carbon capture and burial, which aims to pump carbon dioxide underground. The promoters should be told that current levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are below those that maximize plant growth and food production. The rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels was a major contributor to increased world food production over the last century. To bury this free plant food is not food-smart.
 
These unproven solutions to unproven problems are unlikely to change the climate. But there is a 50:50 chance that instead of warming, the globe may cool naturally, which will cause dramatic reduction in food production.
 
Food is not easily storable, and supply and demand are always finely balanced. If natural cooling comes on top of all these man-made anti-food policies, the world will see cascading food shortages.

For those who wish to read more:

The Ethanol Disaster:
http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/06/the-ethanol-disaster

The Unintended Consequences of Ethanol:
http://news.newsmax.com/?ZKORXYGhQIAlL8s41ytI6BaZUxleNLU1Z&ns_mail_uid=32310041&ns_mail_job=1566641_04272014
 
Ethanol from corn waste may release more greenhouse gases than petrol:
http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/corn-waste-fuel-not-better-than-petrol/story-e6frfkui-1226890856876?from=public_js
 
The Ethanol Disaster:
http://carbon-sense.com/2013/11/25/the-ethanol-disaster/
 
World turns against Ethanol:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/63444

Current solar cycle may be the weakest in 200 years:
http://informthepundits.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/sunspots-2014-two-big-surprises/
 


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