Re: LEW what should Obama do about Syria

"In 1996, Clinton bombed Iraq yet again. ... and military facilities
-- without the approval of the U.N. or any international alliance"

http://dissidentvoice.org/Sept04/Frank0920.htm

On 6/2/12, EARL DOYLE <lesjulia1@gmail.com> wrote:
> great point
>
> but instead the U.S. gets as many countries behind the invasion
> without CHINA's and RUSSIA's approval.
>
> you don't think this is doable
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
> "Legitimacy of NATO bombing of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free ...
>
> "While NATO did not have the backing of the United Nations Security
> Council to use force in .... US President Bill Clinton then
> spearheaded the use of force by NATO ..."
>
> and the same when Clinton only bombed Iraq, no U.N. approval
>
>
>
> On 6/2/12, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you know who the five members who have a veto are on the Security
>> Council? Do you understand that the only reason that the Korean Conflict
>> was
>> a UN Peacemaking Mission was that the China in the UN was the Republic of
>> China from Formosa (Now Taiwan)?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>> The Shit has hit the Fan"
>> "Hiding in Honduras"
>> - Warren Zevon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EARL DOYLE
>> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:59 AM
>> To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: LEW what should Obama do about Syria
>>
>> to make it peaceful in the Middle East
>>
>> if we let it be, civil war gets worse, Lebanon starts their civil war
>> again,
>> thangs get worse Hezbollah flexes their arsenals which are
>> newer/better/no
>> powerful, Israel gets involved, Eygpt gets involved, Saudia Arabia
>> supports
>> one side
>>
>> if we don't do anythang
>>
>> if we do, the have to have the U.N. behind us, if not, the rebels are
>> supplied by Iran and al Qaeda, Syria has WMD that al Qaeda would love to
>> have, i don't think CHINA or RUSSIA will get involved, so where are we
>>
>> since the last two times the U.S. was backed by the U.N. it worked,
>> Bosnia
>> and Kuwait
>>
>> so i say we get together with the U.N. now and get the ball rolling, set
>> a
>> date, still civil war, the U.N.and it's forces, N.A.T.O., and the U.S.
>> invade
>>
>> it would work, it would be too big a force not to win
>>
>> when we win we must get rid of Syria's WMD
>>
>> we need to remember the Arab states don't like ASSAD the leader of Syria
>> and
>> he's a SHIA the minority of Muslims
>>
>> and we take orders from the U.N.
>>
>> WE say yes sir no sir
>>
>> On 6/1/12, jgg1000a <jgg1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Syria is one of those square peg issues -- no good solutions... To
>> answer
>>>
>>> it first you must ask "what should America's goal be"??? Is it to
>> counter
>>>
>>> Iran? Is it democracy in Syria??? Is it to provide a distraction so
>>> Arabs
>>>
>>> will focus on THEIR problems rather than make Israel the issue?
>>>
>>> The Arabs do not Saad because Syria publicly shames them -- where were
>>> they
>>>
>>> before (complaining about Jenin as a holocaust) when the numbers of dead
>>> are exponentially greater... Because the Arabs are not supporting
>>> Palestinian blindly now, the Palestinians are now for "peaceful
>>> resolution...
>>>
>>> To answer you question, what should our goals be???
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 1, 2012 9:55:27 AM UTC-4, Leader of 71 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> back the rebels
>>>>
>>>> bomb Syria
>>>>
>>>> go the NATO way
>>>>
>>>> or the U.N.way to back us up before we invade
>>>>
>>>> LEW you do realize the ARABS don't like SAAD
>>>>
>>>> We would get a lot of countries behind us but RUSSIA and CHINA like
>>>> SAAD
>>>>
>>>
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