Re: LEW what should Obama do about Syria

great point

but instead the U.S. gets as many countries behind the invasion
without CHINA's and RUSSIA's approval.

you don't think this is doable

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
"Legitimacy of NATO bombing of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free ...

"While NATO did not have the backing of the United Nations Security
Council to use force in .... US President Bill Clinton then
spearheaded the use of force by NATO ..."

and the same when Clinton only bombed Iraq, no U.N. approval



On 6/2/12, Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know who the five members who have a veto are on the Security
> Council? Do you understand that the only reason that the Korean Conflict
> was
> a UN Peacemaking Mission was that the China in the UN was the Republic of
> China from Formosa (Now Taiwan)?
>
> Tom
>
> "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
> The Shit has hit the Fan"
> "Hiding in Honduras"
> - Warren Zevon
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EARL DOYLE
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:59 AM
> To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: LEW what should Obama do about Syria
>
> to make it peaceful in the Middle East
>
> if we let it be, civil war gets worse, Lebanon starts their civil war
> again,
> thangs get worse Hezbollah flexes their arsenals which are newer/better/no
> powerful, Israel gets involved, Eygpt gets involved, Saudia Arabia supports
> one side
>
> if we don't do anythang
>
> if we do, the have to have the U.N. behind us, if not, the rebels are
> supplied by Iran and al Qaeda, Syria has WMD that al Qaeda would love to
> have, i don't think CHINA or RUSSIA will get involved, so where are we
>
> since the last two times the U.S. was backed by the U.N. it worked, Bosnia
> and Kuwait
>
> so i say we get together with the U.N. now and get the ball rolling, set a
> date, still civil war, the U.N.and it's forces, N.A.T.O., and the U.S.
> invade
>
> it would work, it would be too big a force not to win
>
> when we win we must get rid of Syria's WMD
>
> we need to remember the Arab states don't like ASSAD the leader of Syria
> and
> he's a SHIA the minority of Muslims
>
> and we take orders from the U.N.
>
> WE say yes sir no sir
>
> On 6/1/12, jgg1000a <jgg1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Syria is one of those square peg issues -- no good solutions... To
> answer
>>
>> it first you must ask "what should America's goal be"??? Is it to
> counter
>>
>> Iran? Is it democracy in Syria??? Is it to provide a distraction so
>> Arabs
>>
>> will focus on THEIR problems rather than make Israel the issue?
>>
>> The Arabs do not Saad because Syria publicly shames them -- where were
>> they
>>
>> before (complaining about Jenin as a holocaust) when the numbers of dead
>> are exponentially greater... Because the Arabs are not supporting
>> Palestinian blindly now, the Palestinians are now for "peaceful
>> resolution...
>>
>> To answer you question, what should our goals be???
>>
>> On Friday, June 1, 2012 9:55:27 AM UTC-4, Leader of 71 wrote:
>>>
>>> back the rebels
>>>
>>> bomb Syria
>>>
>>> go the NATO way
>>>
>>> or the U.N.way to back us up before we invade
>>>
>>> LEW you do realize the ARABS don't like SAAD
>>>
>>> We would get a lot of countries behind us but RUSSIA and CHINA like
>>> SAAD
>>>
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