Re: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.

Hey army brat, what the fuck does elite mean?


YOU are a typical SOUTHERN raised arrogant son of a bitch. Is that why
you try so hard to impress? You cant change who you are, embrace your
southern roots, HICK!









On May 29, 5:24 pm, "Tom" <boldsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>         That's an ignorant statement.  Plenty of the folks I worked with
> were from the South.  As I said my boss had to return to San Antonio.  No my
> family is not from the South and every one of us was either born in
> Pennsylvania or NYS. My wife was born in Gainesville FL but she was a
> university brat (her Dad was a History Prof at Univ of FL, Gainesville and
> then an Air Force Brat).  My Mom was from NC and even had a grandfather
> named Jefferson Davis named by his Father who'd served in the Confederate
> Army.  However even she had Yankees in her family by the name of Paige. My
> wife's father was from Connecticut and her mother from Jacksonville, FL.  SO
> WHAT? I don't have this problem you and Les have with Southerners and can
> see it only as the close minded bigotry of the wannabee elite.
>
>         The way you apparently feel about Southerners based on the comment
> by your coworker is exactly the way I feel about those who have tried to
> undermine the GWOT from its first days.
>
> Tom
>
> "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
> The Shit has hit the Fan"
> "Hiding in Honduras"
> - Warren Zevon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of OccupySpring
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:06 PM
> To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
> Subject: Re: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.
>
> You made a comment about those who remember, I remember the day very clear.
> and while I was at work this southern bitch made a comment about why people
> are upset "Its just a building" she represents the south.n Isnt that where
> you said your family is from?
>
> On May 29, 5:01 pm, "Tom" <boldsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nope, that why I said. "Do you seriously believe that it wasn't
> > personal for MANY of us out here?"
>
> > Truth is it should STILL BE personal for all of us.
>
> > Tom
>
> > "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>
> > The Shit has hit the Fan"
>
> > "Hiding in Honduras"
>
> > - Warren Zevon
>
> > From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lynn...@aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:57 PM
> > To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.
>
> > Now you argue like a liberal. It was personal for me...moreso than
> > anyone else? really?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom <boldsa...@gmail.com>
> > To: opendebateforum <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 3:52 pm
> > Subject: RE: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.
>
> > Do you seriously believe that it wasn't personal for many of us out
> > here?  I was originally scheduled to attend a meeting concerning
> > bonuses for Medical Personnel in the G1 shop ( the section that was
> > hit at the Pentagon) that day.  The only thing that stopped me from
> > being there was that my boss and I had a deal that either he or I had
> > to always be present in ST Louis to cover the Health Services
> > Personnel Management Directorate and his wife had called him with an
> > emergency at his home in San Antonio the previous week requiring him
> > to go home.  I postponed my meeting for a week and lost three close
> > friends and colleagues that day.  My Senior Rater LTG Timothy Maude ended
> up in ICU where he died the next day.
>
> >         The Bin Laden family had already disowned Usama years before 9-11.
>
> >         I gave you the links from ABC and the BBC because the left
> > always denies News from other sources such as the Wall Street Journal or
> Fox News.
> > In this case you choose to disbelieve their reportage, in most cases
> > had the articles been in line with your ideological beliefs you would
> > have accepted them based on past performance.
>
> > Tom
>
> > "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
> > The Shit has hit the Fan"
> > "Hiding in Honduras"
> > - Warren Zevon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > <mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com?> ] On Behalf Of OccupySpring
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:09 PM
> > To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
> > Subject: Re: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.
>
> > Tom,
>
> > 9/11 was very personal to me, more-so than anyone on this forum as NY
> > is my home state and I have FAMILY and FRIENDS that work and live in NYC.
>
> > Why did Bush allow the Bin Laden's family to leave the country after
> > knowing it was his family member that ordered the attack on Sept 11?
>
> > Now, what ABC or any MSM has to say is to be taken with a grain of
> > salt, they are all corporate stooges.
>
> > Im glad to know you would fight to protect your family, I assume
> > Iraqis being human must have felt the same way.
>
> > On May 29, 3:50 pm, "Tom" <boldsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > How would I feel?  How about what would I do?  I'd fight them with
> > > every weapon at my disposal. If for no other reason than Bush's
> > > October or November Speech about the GWOT, we had reason to attack
> > > Iraq.  In that speech he said some phrases that have remained in th
> > > eminds of most Americans who remember 9-11 and the increasing
> > > terrorist threat to Americans since at least 1979.  He said words to
> > > the effect that any (person or State) that supported terrorists,
> > > encouraged them, sheltered them, or aided them was as much of an
> > > enemy as the terrorists themselves.  NOTE that I said after 9-11 but
> > > not aided in the attack of 9-11.  That means that they didn't have
> > > to have a direct or indirect tie to that day of attack on our soil
> > > only that they had ties to "terrorists in some form or fashion.
> > > Here are two articles from among many that show that Hussein in fact
> > > did aid and abet
> > terrorists.
>
> > > Palestinians get Saddam funds
> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm>
>
> > > Saddam Hussein has paid out thousands of dollars to families of
> > > Palestinians killed in fighting with Israel.
>
> > >http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914
> > > <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914
> > <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914&page=1%23.T8UoJFKwVRc>
> > &page=1%23.T8UoJFKwVRc>
> > > &page=1#.T8UoJFKwVRc
>
> > > Saddam Rewards Suicide Bombers' Families
>
> > > Tom
>
> > > "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>
> > > The Shit has hit the Fan"
>
> > > "Hiding in Honduras"
>
> > > - Warren Zevon
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>
> > > [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > <mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com?> ] On Behalf Of OccupySpring
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:11 PM
> > > To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
> > > Subject: Re: When you attack a country,INNOCENT people die and suffer.
>
> > > There was NO sufficient reason to attack Iraq and KILL 1 MILLION
> > > innocent lives.
>
> > > How would YOU feel if China decides to take our land since we owe
> > > them so much money, They start bombing us and killing YOUR children.
> > > How would you feel??
>
> > > On May 22, 1:13 pm, "Tom" < <mailto:boldsa...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:boldsa...@gmail.com?> >
> > > boldsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >         What exactly would his lie have been?  That he believed
> > > > that
>
> > > > they had WMDs or that WMDs formed his rationale for invading?  If
> > > > all
>
> > > > intelligence agencies worldwide with which we had cooperation said
>
> > > > that their best estimate was that he did and if Saddam himself
> > > > stated
>
> > > > that he did, what lie did Bush tell us?  If it was that the basis
> > > > for
>
> > > > the invasion was solely the presence of WMDs that would be a
>
> > > > falsehood, not on Bush's head but on the heads of those who so
> > > > stated
>
> > > > since Bush's statements concerning the reason for invading listed
>
> > > > approximately 21 reasons and not just WMDs.
>
> > > >         That is where any claims of culpability for violating Use
> > > > of
>
> > > > Force requirements falls short and devolves into a political snipe
>
> > > > hunt rather than an honest evaluation of fact.  BTW, discovery of
> > > > 500
>
> > > > drums of chemical weapons, whether they were old and present prior
> > > > to
>
> > > > 1991 or not, is the discovery of 500 drums of chemical weapons.
> > > > As
>
> > > > for the claims that they would no longer have constituted a
> > > > threat, my
>
> > > > training and experience as an RN, as a graduate of USAMRRID's
>
> > > > Management of Chemical Casualties course, and as a former trained
>
> > > > Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare defense officer tells me
> > > > how
>
> > > > ill informed those who claimed that particular point are in reality.
>
> > > > One of the first things I learned in NBC school was the story of
> > > > the
>
> > > > French Farmer from Ypres, France who was clearing one of his
> > > > fields of
>
> > > > trees in 1954.  He took a break and sat for a while on the stump
> > > > of
>
> > > > one of the trees that he had felled.  Three hours later he was in
> > > > the
>
> > > > local Emergency Room with Mustard gas induced chemical burns of
> > > > his
>
> > > > buttocks and upper legs. Ypres was the site of the first use of
> > > > chemical
> > > agents by the Germans in 1915 and mustard gas was one of the agents
> > > used there.
>
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > "Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>
> > > > The Shit has hit the Fan"
>
> > > > "Hiding in Honduras"
>
> > > > - Warren Zevon
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > > From:  <mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
> > <mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com?> >
> > > opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>
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