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RE: Harvard Gun Study Refutes Gun Grabber Claims - More Gun Laws Don't Prove ...

Yes, and????

 

20 Versatile Semi-Automatic Rifles

Gun Shots Blogger John Haughey puts together his list of 20 versatile semi-automatic rifles that can be used for big-game hunting or target shooting.

Photo Gallery by John Haughey

The debate is moot. Regardless of what you think or how you feel about using semi-automatic guns for hunting, autoloaders and AR-style rifles are becoming more common in camps and virtually every major manufacturer is producing these guns in calibers heavy enough to drop deer, hogs and bears. Not to mention the fact that they're a blast on the range.
 
But what's the real difference between an AR and a semi-automatic rifle? It's seminal, and aesthetic. ARs were initially designed by ArmaLite Inc. -- hence the AR designation -- as civilian versions of military rifles, while the other semi-autos in this review were developed first and foremost as hunting or competitive shooting firearms. However, as ARs continue to grow in popularity as hunting rifles and semi-auto hunting rifle makers continue to borrow features from the AR world (synthetic stocks, detachable magazines) trying to separate the types of guns on a philosophical level is an exercise in futility. Both rifles fire a single bullet each time the trigger is pulled and they both automatically eject the spent cartridge and chamber in a new one. But from a technical standpoint, the two types of guns work off of a different platform and generally look different.

With that in mind, we round up 20 great semi-automatic rifles chambered in .30 RAR/6.8 SPC Spec II caliber cartridges and heavier. We cover ARs in slides 2-16 and autoloaders in slides 17-20. This is by no means a complete list. If we left your favorite gun out, make sure to add it in the comments section!

 

From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie39@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:38 PM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harvard Gun Study Refutes Gun Grabber Claims - More Gun Laws Don't Prove ...

 

Not sure where you live, Bold, but here most hunting rifles are bolt action or pump, not semiautomatics,

 

In a message dated 8/30/2013 6:05:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thevirtualtruth@gmail.com writes:

Hunting rifles are not the issue, do not be obtuse, i was very clear to say MILITARY style weapons.

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Boldsaber <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

Fully automatic weapons are already banned and have been since the 1930s.  Why do you want to get Semiautomatics banned?  You do realize that most rifles used for hunting are semis? That semi auto only refers to the positioning of a new round in the chamber when the previous one has been fired and that a separate trigger squeeze is necessary to fire that new round?

 

From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Lewis
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:54 AM
To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
Subject: Re: Harvard Gun Study Refutes Gun Grabber Claims - More Gun Laws Don't Prove Diddely-Squat

 

The issue is to get semi automatic and automatic military assault rifles out of the hands of non military individuals and to raise the bar to keep guns out of the hands of the criminally insane and convicted violent felons. I don't think this is unreasonable.

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, lew <lewcoop@aol.com> wrote:

Harvard Gun Study Refutes Gun Grabber Claims - More Gun Laws Don't Prove Diddely-Squat

Russ Vaughn

                        

In an almost fifty-page study published in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, authors Don Kates and Gary Mauser, demonstrate again and again that strict gun control laws do not correlate with lower murder rates, neither in the United States nor Europe. In fact, just as is true in the U.S. where the highest murder rates occur in cities like Chicago, with the strictest gun control laws, the highest murder rate among developed countries is in Russia where gun ownership is highly restricted.

The study is a long but interesting read with several tables and lots of statistics and well worth your time. But for those not inclined to read it, here is the conclusion drawn by the authors:

CONCLUSION

This Article has reviewed a significant amount of evidence from a wide variety of international sources. Each individual portion of evidence is subject to cavil -- at the very least the general objection that the persuasiveness of social scientific evidence cannot remotely approach the persuasiveness of conclusions in the physical sciences. Nevertheless, the burden of proof rests on the proponents of the more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death mantra, especially since they argue public policy ought to be based on that mantra. To bear that burden would at the very least require showing that a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that have imposed strict gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide). But those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared across the world.

Emphasis mine

In other words, as we gun advocates have long known, the observable facts simply will not support the emotional arguments of the gun grabbers regarding both violent crime and suicide. Interestingly, the study also relates a survey of incarcerated felons that confirms that a criminal's greatest fear is that his victim may be armed. That certainly makes the case for a well-armed citizenry regardless of the definition of militia.

You should read the entire study and then make sure your elected representatives read it.



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If people only knew the facts, they would not be fighting for the 'RIGHT' to be screwed over.

Nixon 1973:  "I am not a crook!"
Clinton 1998 wagging finger: "I did not have sex with that woman!"
Bush 2005 wagging finger:  "I did nothing illegal!"
+ $1,899,522,392,147 Social Security Trust Fund.
– $8,367,894,586,992 The Gross National Debt $3,231,274,298,946.38 in foreign oil

Time will tell all the Truth.
VT

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Founder AOL Group OpenDebateForum
Founder Google Group Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
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Creator of Web Site The Center of Virtual Truth
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