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Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt Them?
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-- From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
To: opendebateforum <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 31, 2012 4:18 am
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt Them?
In brief:
Ideally, the annual federal budget process begins by the first Monday in February and ends on October 1st, the start of the government's fiscal year. Unfortunately, the process has not been completed on time in several years, leaving the government starting its new fiscal year without an approved budget. In order to prevent a government shutdown, a series of "continuing resolutions" are usually approved by Congress to keep the wheels of government rolling until a budget agreement can be reached. Once again, in a perfect political world, the annual federal budget process would go as follows:
Before the First Monday in February:
The President's Budget Proposal is submitted to Congress.
Six Weeks Later:
The Congressional committees report their budget estimates to Budget Committees.
By April 15:
The Congressional Budget Resolution should be approved.
By May 15:
The House and Senate should begin consideration of the annual appropriations (spending) bills.
By June 15:
Differences between House and Senate versions of the annual appropriations bills should have been resolved by a conference committee.
By June 30:
Congress should have approved the annual appropriations bills and sent them to the president.
By July 15:
The president transmits a Mid-Session Review of the budget to Congress.
On October 1:
The government's new fiscal year begins and the new budget is implemented.
Tom
"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
The Shit has hit the Fan"
"Hiding in Honduras"
- Warren Zevon
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From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lynnk05@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:21 PM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt Them?
From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lynnk05@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:21 PM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt Them?
Backwards. Normally the executive brings his budget to the speaker who forwards it to appropriations. At the same time cbo prepares their version and sends it to appropriations. Then appropriations and ways and means finds other funding. Notice that the president is busy with foreign affairs. The Congress has abdicated. Boehner has revealed his total incompetence. He can't even keep his caucas in town.
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Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:
>Uhh, Lynne, a House budget proposal is totally contingent on the Senate
>also voting on it and then the differences being ironed out in a joint
>committee and voted on once more by the house and senate. It is then
>contingent on the President signing it and in the event of his veto
>having enough votes to overcome that veto. You know that and you know
>that the Senate has absolutely refused to bring a single budget bill to
>the floor so that the process could unfold. No problem, Obama has
>often stated that he will veto anything that is not exactly per his wishes.
>
>Tom
>"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>The Shit has hit the Fan"
>"Hiding in Honduras"
>- Warren Zevon
>
>
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>[mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lynnk05@aol.com
>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:52 AM
>Subject: Re: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We
>Don't Bankrupt Them?
>
>He did. Boehner just forgot to yell you. And exactly why did the caucus
>go home? If they are so against taxes? Because that's exactly what they
>are going to cause.
>PS. The power of the purse is granted solely to Congress. So you are
>once again blaming the President for something outside his purview.
>Your homework for today is to sit down and read the Constitution.
>
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>
>lew <lewcoop@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Republican caus=cus went home for Christmas???? It has been sitin
>>garound waiting for bama leadership on spending for four years - since
>>1/20/2009. Obama did nothing.
>>
>>On Dec 30, 11:09 am, lynn...@aol.com wrote:
>>> It's still the Republican caucus that went home for Christmas. You
>>> can
>cry all you want but that's the fact.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Talbot <larry.tal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >No jiggy, it's payback time for the republican's knuckledraggerism
>>> >and
>record amount of filibusters.
>>> > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:09:20 -0800
>>> >From: jgg1...@hotmail.com
>>> >To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>>> >Subject: Re: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If
>>> >We
>Don't Bankrupt Them?
>>>
>>> >Is the uncompromising Democrats principled or just hungry for power
>here??? In time Obama will be seen as the Emperor without clothes
>(unconstitutional recess appointments for one)...
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:16:39 PM UTC-5, Lynne wrote:It is
>>> >the republican caucus that went home proving that Boehner is not as
>>> >competent as Pelosi.Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&Tlew
>>> ><lew...@aol.com> wrote:>Since We Care So Much About Our Children,
>>> >How About If We Don't
>>> >>Bankrupt Them?
>>>
>>> >>powerline.com
>>>
>>> >>We definitely don't want our children to be murdered in school
>>> >>shootings, as the post-Newtown furor has demonstrated. That is a
>>> >>sentiment with which I heartily concur. I also don't want my
>>> >>children to be struck by lightning, which is considerably more
>>> >>likely than being shot in school, or to be killed in a bicycle
>>> >>accident, which is around ten times as likely as being murdered in
>>> >>school. But while we are expressing concern for such remote
>>> >>contingencies, how about if we deal with an absolute
>>> >>certainty–that every American child is being saddled with a crushing burden of debt?
>>>
>>> >>Currently there are around 74 million children under the age of 18
>>> >>in the U.S. If you divide our $16.4 trillion debt by 74 million,
>>> >>you get
>>> >>$222,000 apiece. If you assume that two of those kids get married,
>>> >>they owe $444,000 together. And if you assume that your kid is
>>> >>going to be one of the 50% who pay any discernible amount of
>>> >>income taxes, the tab comes to close to $1 million. That is truly
>>> >>a crushing burden, and it isn't a one in million risk, it is a
>>> >>certainty. Michael Ramirez makes the point:
>>>
>>> >>Barry, of course, doesn't have to worry. His daughters attend
>>> >>Sidwell Friends, which bristles with armed guards, above and
>>> >>beyond the
>girls'
>>> >>Secret Service detail. Nor do his children have to fret about
>>> >>their share of the national debt. Like Bill Clinton, Obama will
>>> >>retire a very, very rich man. So it isn't Barry's children we are
>>> >>talking about, it is only yours. And who cares about them? Not
>>> >>Barack Obama and the Democrats, obviously.
>>>
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