Law: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...

Just like W did twice during his reign.That's happened since befroe even Chrlie was born. Nice try though, even though I believe that Congress should work for free, just because they love the USA!

From: boldsaber@gmail.com
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:14:53 -0600

PS, don't forget to thank President Obama for signing an EO raising the salaries of Biden, various cabinet members, some czars, I'm sure and our Congress critters. Damned good place to put all those new taxes he expects to rake in isn't it. Meanwhile he and Michelle wave their royal handkerchiefs at you and tell you to "eat cake, it's good for you, but it must be low calorie cake with no frosting".

Tom

"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,

The Shit has hit the Fan"

"Hiding in Honduras"

- Warren Zevon

From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lynnk05@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:22 PM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...

Yes,Ttom. Sometimes change happens. It's not always a bad thing. We have not paid enough taxes over the last 10 years - largely thanks to Dumbass W and his unfunded war.
You think the wars were necessary. I don't. Nonetheless, the money was borrowed and spent and now it's time to pay the piper and you deny dancing? If you wanted the wars, it's time to pony up. I didn't want the war and Ihave to pony up, too. Welcome to reality.

If you ever figure out how big the hoax of supply side econonics is, and how we really didn't need a war in the middle east, and that we should stay out of Africa...you will be made as hell.

I'm happy to be a progressive. I doln't want to goi back to the dark ages...why do you? L

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From: Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com>
To: opendebateforum <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 31, 2012 12:31 pm
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...

Why is it that leftist always chalk up recognition of threat and adverse conditions and the motivation to do something about it as fear? No Larry, I'm not afraid, I know how to live in less than optimal conditions and am prepared to do so with as much comfort as possible given the conditions. Will you do as well? How will you charge up your volt? By the way, it's far too late to stop sequestration, it's a fact at 0001 tonight. I realize that you and others of your ideological bent believe that it's nothing and will have no impact on your lives, unfortunately your capacity for burying your head in the sand will not stop it from having an effect on you. The cliff diving is just icing on the cake but I'd still urge you to get your little statue of Obama or his picture and start praying to him to save you, I mean, he's done such a great job at that task already, right?

I earned my so-called "welfare check" by serving my country, Larry. Have you earned your retirement nest egg yet? Still working? Ask your boss how long you've got left.

Tom

"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,

The Shit has hit the Fan"

"Hiding in Honduras"

- Warren Zevon

From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Talbot
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:29 AM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...

Afraid? Tom. let's see that "Warrior Spine " that you like to crow about! I'll be willing to bet your monthly welfare check that nothing's going to happen. Shit, the media can spew all that they want. The Mayan Calendar thing had a better chance of happening that any "fiscal cliff " calamity, however , keep posting your paranoid B.S. Tom , I'm sure that you can find some takers here. The most likely scenario is that one or both parties will cave in and compromise, their collective ball sacks will crawl back up into their abdomens or what I'd like to see is that the party that holds power in two of the three branches of government shoves the electoral majorities agenda up the "Loyal" opposition parties ass.If the voters don't like it , then there will be an election in just 4 short years.

From: boldsaber@gmail.com
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since We Care So Much About Our Children, How About If We Don't Bankrupt ...
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:23:34 -0600

It's like I said, they can claim that it's the fault of the GOP all they want. Most of us know the truth and that the Senate Dems and Obama have been playing with themselves for the last four years and are fully responsible for the cliff diving and worst for the sequestration which starts tonight when the ball goes down in Times Square. That particular Genie cannot be put back in the bottle quickly nor easily. At 0001 hours, 1 January 2013, I would rate US combat readiness at C-4. (Unit Status Reports rate units from C-1 to C-5, C-4 is the last one from which a unit can be eventually resurrected as a functional combat asset WITH MASSIVE infusions of personnel, equipment, and training, C-5 is generally reserved for units which are slated to "lose their flag".

My paranoia is shared by most in the military community. The impact will also be seen in new recruitment as the new taxes and other reductions WILL make the military among the least competitive job markets and the story about how all the above will impact on military families is already getting out. It seems that Obama and his horde of raving progressives will not be happy with just the destruction of America but are intent on a scorched earth policy as well.

Tom

"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,

The Shit has hit the Fan"

"Hiding in Honduras"

- Warren Zevon

From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pred544@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:50 AM
To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
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In a message dated 12/30/2012 9:30:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, lynnk05@aol.com writes:

Backwards. Normally the executive brings his budget to the speaker who forwards it to appropriations. At the same time cbo prepares their version and sends it to appropriations. Then appropriations and ways and means finds other funding. Notice that the president is busy with foreign affairs. The Congress has abdicated. Boehner has revealed his total incompetence. He can't even keep his caucas in town.
The House has submitted 4 budgets to the Senate in the last 4 years, Reid refuses to allow a vote. Obamba has sent three straight budgets to the Senate that Reid and the Dems have voted down 99-1 or 100-0. Only the Senate side of Congress has abdicated.

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