Re: and kreepy idolizes the coal industry...

OK - Coal is also sacred...if you find some in your yard, you don't own it, the federal government does. It is also the most polluting fuel on earth. It can be used in cleaner ways for plastics and synthetic materials of all kinds.

The good prices we have now are the lowest in world history.  

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From: lew <lewcoop@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: and kreepy idolizes the coal industry...

-Coal is the cheapest fuel there is  - creates the lowest cost of goods  - which createsthe most affordable goods for the most people  - which creates the most josbs making those goods  - which get the most peole off unemploymeny to make those goods  - which creates the largest middle class.    -Beats rabble rousing lefties doing nothing.    On Aug 28, 4:08 pm, thematte...@aol.com wrote:  > A group of employees who feared they'd be fired if they didn't attend the   campaign rally in Beallsville, Ohio, complained about it to WWVA radio station   talk show host David Blomquist. Blomquist discussed their beefs on the air   Monday with Murray Energy Chief Financial Officer Rob Moore.  > Moore told Blomquist that managers "communicated to our workforce that the   attendance at the Romney event was mandatory, but no one was forced to attend."   He said the company did not penalize no-shows.  > Because the company's mine had to be shut down for "safety and security"   reasons during Romney's visit, Moore confirmed workers were not paid that day.   He said miners also lose pay when weather or power outages shut down the mine,   and noted that federal election law doesn't let companies pay workers to attend   political events.  >  >  >  > -----Original Message-----  > From: thematter65 <thematte...@aol.com>  > To: opendebateforum <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>  > Sent: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 3:42 pm  > Subject: Re: One from PL's point of view....  >  > Obama champions the middlecalss, you fucking moron, why do you lick the balls   of the wealthy job exporteres, have you no dignity?  >  > -----Original Message-----  > From: lew <lewc...@aol.com>  > To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>  > Sent: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 2:55 pm  > Subject: Re: One from PL's point of view....  >  > In the poor countries of the world, th separation between the top and  > he bottom is worse.  > How are Cuba and Venezuela making out?  > Think Obama wil shortly get us to this greater separation?  > On Aug 28, 2:12 pm, nominal9-Bomb-Throwin-Anarchist  > nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:  >  Makes a lot more sense than the Romney / Ryan tripe.... I think  >  >  http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romneys-challenge-preserving-g...  >  >  Extremism in defense of Gilded Age privilege  >  >     - [image: Smaller Text]<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romneys-challenge-preserving-g...>  > image:  >     Larger Text]<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romneys-challenge-preserving-g...>  > ext  >     Size  >     - Print<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romneys-challenge-preserving-g...>  >     - E-mail<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romneys-challenge-preserving-g...>  >     - Reprints <http://www.washingtonpostreprints.com/>  >  >      By Katrina vanden Heuvel<http://www.washingtonpost.com/katrina-vanden-heuvel/2011/02/24/ABMj4X...>,  >  Tuesday, August 28, 1:07 PM  The Washington Post  >  >  As Isaac — happily not named Katrina II — grew into a hurricane threatening  >  the Gulf Coast, Louisiana's conservative governor, Bobby Jindal, made it  >  clear he didn't want big government interference. Rep. Paul Ryan, Mitt  >  Romney's running mate and tea party poster boy, said he was happy that  >  Republicans had slashed spending  >  <on" target="_blank"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/opinion/the-storm-again.html?hp=&am...]>on  >  FEMA, the federal emergency agency, and were committed to his budget that  >  would eviscerate domestic spending, including on FEMA. Louisiana  >  homeowners, he added, would do better with a tax cut.  >  >  Those caught in the immigration storm, presumptive Republican presidential  >  nominee Mitt Romney said, should "self-deport."  >  >    "In this present crisis," the Republican Party platform declared, quoting  >  Ronald Reagan, "government is not the solution to our problem, government  >  is the problem."  >  >  Not! In fact, Republican governors called on President Obama for emergency  >  aid. Gov Jindal criticized the federal government  >  <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57501394/la-gov-bobby-jindal-asks...>for  >  not doing enough, even after Obama declared a national emergency<http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/obama_signs_emergency...>  >  .  >  >  To paraphrase the sainted Reagan  >  <once" target="_blank"http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/government?page=3>once   more, "It isn't  >  so much that conservatives are ignorant, it's just that they know so much  >  that isn't so."  >  >  Hurricanes tend to concentrate the mind, and to sober the most besotted  >  ideologues. But Isaac clearly had little effect on the platform that Mitt  >  Romney's Republican Party plans to run on this fall.  >  >  Much attention sensibly has been given to the extreme social policy of the  >  GOP's platform. Opposition to abortion with no exceptions, even for rape or  >  incest, not even for "legitimate" or "forcible" rape," which Rep. Ryan calls  >  a "method of conception<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-slansky-/paul-ryan-said-something-...>."  >  >  Or the vicious immigration policy that, as The Washington Post concluded  >  <http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-muddled-message-on-il...>in  >  a recent editorial, "is basically a declaration of war on the 11 million  >  undocumented immigrants in the country."  >  >  Or the dog-whistle racism over work requirements in welfare, now a  >  centerpiece of dishonest and tawdry Romney ads<http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/making-the-election...>.  >  No wonder Romney garnered a well-earned 0 percent of African Americans'  >  votes <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80015.html>in a recent  >  poll.  >  >  Romney has sought to distance himself from the Republican extremes on  >  abortion. But he is the leading advocate of the other aspect of new age  >  Republican extremism: its Gilded Age economic policies.  >  >  For all the zealotry of the Christian Coalition or the tea party, the  >  Romney-Ryan ticket is most notable for its fierce defense of privilege.  >  Consider:  >  >  At a time when the top 1 percent of Americans captured a staggering 93  >  percent of national income growth in 2010, Romney advocates<http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/1001628-Base-Broadening-Ta...>both  > xtending the extra Bush tax cuts for the rich and another round of  >  tax cuts that would offer those making a million or more another $175,000  >  annual tax break.  >  >  Romney says he'll pay for these tax cuts by closing loopholes, but he  >  refuses to reveal which ones. But he does state clearly that he won't end  >  the biggest loophole of all for the very wealthy — the 15 percent tax on  >  capital gains and dividends. And as befits the man from Bain, he won't  >  condemn the ridiculous tax dodge  >  <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/15/what-is-...>—  >  the so-called "carried-interest" tax rate — that allows private-equity  >  billionaires to report their fees as capital gains rather than as wages.  >  The result, as the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center reports, is that Romney is  >  running on a policy that will raise taxes on working families and lower  >  them on the rich.  >  Similarly, at a time when some multinational corporations, such as General  >  Electric<http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/ge-paid-no-taxes-...>,  >  with billions in profits, pay no taxes at all, Romney advocates lowering  >  the corporate tax rate. As we know from the one full tax return he  >  revealed, Romney, the man from Bain, took advantage of every  >  foreign-tax-avoidance gimmick known to accountants — Swiss bank accounts,  >  Cayman Islands shell corporations and more. Does he use this knowledge of  >  tax dodges to advocate cleaning up the corporate tax code? Not exactly.  >  Romney calls for a "territorial tax system" that would tax only profits  >  reported in the United States. This effectively turns the entire world into  >  a potential tax haven for multinationals.  >  >  Wall Street excesses — featuring what the FBI called an "epidemic" of fraud  >  <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/the-two-documents-every...>—  >  blew up the economy and effectively doubled our national debt. But Romney,  >  as befits the man from Bain, sees financialization of the economy as a  >  feature, not a bug.  >  >   So he pledges to repeal rather than strengthen Dodd-Frank, the financial  >  reforms designed to put some rules around the big banks. And, of course,  >  he's a strong opponent of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which  >  was designed to give consumers some protection against financial predators.  >  >  Clearly, this nation is failing to invest adequately in basics that are  >  vital to our economy: education and training, research and development,  >  21st-century infrastructure, from sewage systems to renewable energy to  >  faster broadband. Yet the Romney-Ryan budgets call for lowering government  >  spending dramatically, while raising military spending (and postponing any  >  cuts in Medicare and Social Security for a decade). This requires — as a  >  matter of mathematics — deep cuts in programs for the vulnerable — programs  >  such as Medicaid and food stamps, but also in investments even conservative  >  business leaders support. That these cuts serve not to reduce the deficit  >  but simply to help pay for the top end of Romney tax cuts is stark evidence  >  of how fervent his defense of the 1 percent is.  >  >  "Extremism in defense of liberty," conservative icon Barry Goldwater once  >  said, "is no vice." But extremism in defense of privilege is no virtue. In  >  Tampa, the tea party gets its anti-government, anti-immigrant planks in the  >  platform, and the Christian Coalition its war on women; but the big money  >  is pouring in to support the praetorian guard of privilege at the top of  >  the ticket.  > --  > ou received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Open  > ebate Political Forum IMHO" group.  > o post to this group, send email to OpenDebateForum@googlegroups.com  > o unsubscribe from this group, send email to OpenDebateForum-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com  > or more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum?hl=en  >  > --  > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups   "Open Debate Political Forum IMHO" group.  > To post to this group, send email to OpenDebateForum@googlegroups.com  > To unsubscribe from this group, send  >  > ...  >  > read more »    --   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Open   Debate Political Forum IMHO" group.  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