RE: Dems reject House bill penalizing doctors for sex-selective abortions - No 2/3 vote

But he was, like Sanger and the others, interested in a pure race with all the nasty minorities and less than elite purged from society.


Tom

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I don't think Keynes was too worried about the rights of women.

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Tom <boldsaber@gmail.com> wrote:

>Nothing like Eugenics under the banner of women's rights for hypocrisy is there? Hitler, Sanger, Mengele, George Bernard Shaw, and John Maynard Keynes would be proud.
>
>The practices engaged in by eugenicists involving violations of privacy, attacks on reputation, violations of the right to life, to found a family, to freedom from discrimination are all today classified as violations of human rights. The practice of negative racial aspects of eugenics, after World War II, fell within the definition of the new international crime of genocide, set out in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
>
>Tom
>
>"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
>The Shit has hit the Fan"
>"Hiding in Honduras"
>- Warren Zevon
>
>
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>From: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:opendebateforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lew
>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:09 AM
>To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
>Subject: Re: Dems reject House bill penalizing doctors for
>sex-selective abortions - No 2/3 vote
>
>WHAT IS THAT WAR ON WOMEN??
>
>DEMS WANT ABORTION GENOCIDE OF WOMEN. tHAT IS NOT A DEM WAR ON WOMEN?
>
>On Jun 3, 1:29 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In 2010, the Republicans won big victories in both Federal and state
>> elections and they've been conducting their war on women, and unions,
>> and Medicare ever since. Is this what the American people want? If
>> so, they deserve what they get.
>>
>> On Jun 1, 12:10 pm, lew <lewc...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Dems reject House bill penalizing doctors for sex-selective
>> > abortions
>> > - No 2/3 vote
>>
>> > By Pete Kasperowicz - 05/31/12 02:15 PM ET dudgereport.com
>>
>> > The House on Thursday rejected a Republican bill that would impose
>> > fines and prison terms on doctors who perform abortions for the
>> > sole purpose of controlling the gender of the child, a practice
>> > known as sex-selective abortion.
>>
>> > The Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act (PRENDA), H.R. 3541, was
>> > defeated in a 246-168 vote. While that's a clear majority of the
>> > House, Republicans called up the bill under a suspension of House
>> > rules, which limits debate and requires a two-thirds majority vote to pass.
>> > In this case, it would have required more support from Democrats.
>>
>> > Twenty Democrats voted for the bill, while seven Republicans
>> > opposed it. The bill would have needed 30 more yeas to pass.
>>
>> > Suspension votes are normally used for noncontroversial bills, but
>> > the GOP-backed measure was clearly controversial. Republicans have
>> > occasionally put controversial bills on the suspension calendar in
>> > order to highlight that Democrats oppose certain policies.
>>
>> > In some cases, Republicans have rescheduled these bills for regular
>> > consideration after they have failed, allowing for passage by a
>> > simple majority. But Republicans gave no sign that they would try
>> > again with PRENDA.
>>
>> > Earlier in the day, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) indicated
>> > that the issue of stopping sex-selective abortion is important
>> > enough that they would try again, but he was not specific.
>>
>> > More from The Hill:
>> > ♦ President Bush returns to White House ♦ Pelosi defends $1M
>> > tax-cut threshold against liberal critics ♦ Romney makes surprise
>> > campaign stop at Solyndra factory ♦ Romney supporters shout down
>> > Axelrod at Obama event ♦ Obama to donors: Get off sidelines and
>> > send cash now ♦ Bill Clinton to campaign against Scott Walker in
>> > Wisconsin ♦ Warren: I told Harvard I was Native American after
>> > hiring ♦ Obama official: UN proposals could lead to Internet
>> > censorship
>>
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>> > -
>> > -------­-----
>>
>> > "This is an important issue to the American people," Boehner said
>> > to reporters off the floor. "This type of sex selection most
>> > Americans find pretty repulsive, and our members feel strongly about it.
>> > That's why it is being brought to the floor."
>>
>> > During debate on the bill Wednesday, Republicans said the bill is
>> > consistent with the broader U.S. position that sex-selective
>> > abortion should be condemned around the world.
>>
>> > "In 2007, the United States spearheaded a U.N. resolution to
>> > condemn sex-selective abortion worldwide," said Rep. Trent Franks
>> > (R-Ariz.), the sponsor of the bill. "Yet, here in the land of the
>> > free and the home of the brave, we are the only advanced country
>> > left in the world that still doesn't restrict sex-selective abortion in any way."
>>
>> > While some Democrats made it clear that they oppose sex-selective
>> > abortion, they indicated that they oppose the bill's enforcement
>> > provisions, which they said would put in place an unacceptable
>> > limit on women's rights to choose abortion.
>>
>> > "We can all agree that women should not choose to terminate a
>> > pregnancy based solely on gender, but this bill criminalizes a
>> > legal procedure," Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (D-Ore.) said Thursday afternoon.
>>
>> > "The bill includes a provision that would allow a women's husband
>> > or parents, by merely alleging that an abortion is because of
>> > gender, to seek injunctive relief to prevent the doctor from
>> > performing abortion procedures, sending an incredibly private and
>> > personal decision into the courts," Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) added Thursday.
>>
>> > "It is another Republican intrusion into a woman's right to choose,"
>> > said Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) of the GOP bill on Wednesday.
>> > "Women should be able to make such sensitive and private decisions
>> > with their families, their doctors and their god, free from the
>> > fear of the police."
>>
>> > Republicans voting against the bill were Reps. Justin Amash
>> > (Mich.), Charlie Bass (N.H.), Mary Bono Mack (Calif.), Robert Dold
>> > (Ill.), Richard Hanna (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), and Ron Paul (Texas).
>>
>> > Democrats voting for it were Reps. Jason Altmire (Pa.), John Barrow
>> > (Ga.), Dan Boren (Okla.), Jim Cooper (Tenn.), Jerry Costello
>> > (Ill.), Mark Critz (Pa.), Henry Cuellar (Texas), Joe Donnelly
>> > (Ind.), John Garamendi (Calif.), Tim Holden (Pa.), Larry Kissell
>> > (N.C.), Daniel Lipinski (Ill.), Stephen Lynch (Mass.), Jim Matheson
>> > (Utah), Mike McIntyre (N.C.), Collin Peterson (Minn.), Nick Rahall
>> > (W.Va.), Silvestre Reyes (Texas), Mike Ross (Ark.) and Heath Shuler (N.C.).
>
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