Re: Bloomberg Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks Like Coke a Cola

Its not the size of the drink, its what they put IN the drink that
should be banned. High Fructose Syrup is a leading cause of the
epidemic of obesity.

On May 31, 3:33 pm, thematte...@aol.com wrote:
> bloomberg is a reptilican, like your other heroes, mkkkonnel, kkkantor, palin, cheney, bush and norquist....be quiet and fall in line, like the rest of the lemmings....
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> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO <opendebateforum@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 1:38 pm
> Subject: Re: Bloomberg Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks Like Coke a Cola
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> NYC is the epitome of the socialist nanny state.
> On May 31, 12:35 pm, Leader of 71 <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  [image: The New York Times] <http://www.nytimes.com/>
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>  May 30, 2012
>  New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary DrinksBy MICHAEL M.
>  GRYNBAUM<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/michael_...>
>
>  New York City plans to enact a far-reaching ban on the sale of large sodas
>  and other sugary drinks at restaurants, movie theaters and street carts, in
>  the most ambitious effort yet by theBloomberg administration<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/michael_...>
> o
>  combat rising obesity<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/morbid-obesity/overv...>
>  .
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>  The proposed ban would affect virtually the entire menu of popular sugary
>  drinks found in delis, fast-food franchises and even sports arenas, from
>  energy drinks to pre-sweetened iced teas. The sale of any cup or bottle of
>  sweetened drink larger than 16 fluid ounces — about the size of a medium
>  coffee, and smaller than a common soda bottle — would be prohibited under
>  the first-in-the-nation plan, which could take effect as soon as next March.
>
>  The measure would not apply to diet<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/specialtopic/food-guide-pyram...>sodas,
>  fruit juices, dairy-based drinks like milkshakes, or alcoholic beverages;
>  it would not extend to beverages sold in grocery or convenience stores.
>
>  "Obesity is a nationwide problem, and all over the United States, public
>  health officials are wringing their hands saying, 'Oh, this is terrible,' "
>  Mr. Bloomberg said in an interview on Wednesday in the Governor's Room at
>  City Hall.
>
>  "New York City is not about wringing your hands; it's about doing
>  something," he said. "I think that's what the public wants the mayor to do."
>
>  A spokesman for the New York City Beverage Association, an arm of the soda
>  industry's national trade group, criticized the city's proposal on
>  Wednesday. The industry has clashed repeatedly with the city's health
>  department, saying it has unfairly singled out soda; industry groups have
>  bought subway advertisements promoting their cause.
>
>  "The New York City health department's unhealthy obsession with attacking
>  soft drinks is again pushing them over the top," the industry spokesman,
>  Stefan Friedman, said. "It's time for serious health professionals to move
>  on and seek solutions that are going to actually curb obesity. These
>  zealous proposals just distract from the hard work that needs to be done on
>  this front."
>
>  Mr. Bloomberg's proposal requires the approval of the Board of Health, a
>  step that is considered likely because the members are all appointed by
>  him, and the board's chairman is the city's health commissioner, who joined
>  the mayor in supporting the measure on Wednesday.
>
>  Mr. Bloomberg has made public health one of the top priorities of his
>  lengthy tenure, and has championed a series of aggressive regulations,
>  including bans onsmoking<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/specialtopic/smoking-and-smok...>
> n
>  restaurants and parks, a prohibition against artificial trans
> at<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/trans_...> in
>  restaurant food and a requirement for health inspection grades to be posted
>  in restaurant windows.
>
>  The measures have led to occasional derision of the mayor as Nanny
>  Bloomberg, by those who view the restrictions as infringements on personal
>  freedom. But many of the measures adopted in New York have become models
>  for other cities, including restrictions on smoking and trans fats, as well
>  as the use of graphic advertising to combat smoking and soda consumption,
>  and the demand that chain restaurants post calorie contents next to prices.
>
>  In recent years, soda has emerged as a battleground in efforts to counter
>  obesity. Across the nation, some school districts have banned the sale of
>  soda in schools, and some cities have banned the sale of soda in public
>  buildings.
>
>  In New York City, where more than half<http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cdp/cdp_pan_know_obesity.shtml>of
>  adults are obese or overweight, Dr. Thomas Farley, the health commissioner,
>  blames sweetened drinks for up to half of the increase in city obesity
>  rates over the last 30 years. About a third of New Yorkers drink one or
>  more sugary drinks a day, according to the city. Dr. Farley said the city
>  had seen higher obesity rates in neighborhoods where soda consumption was
>  more common.
>
>  The ban would not apply to drinks with fewer than 25 calories<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/nutrition/diet-calories/overv...>
> er
>  8-ounce serving, like zero-calorie Vitamin Waters and unsweetened iced
>  teas, as well as diet sodas.
>
>  Restaurants, delis, movie theater and ballpark concessions would be
>  affected, because they are regulated by the health department. Carts on
>  sidewalks and in Central Park would also be included, but not vending
>  machines or newsstands that serve only a smattering of fresh food items.
>
>  At fast-food chains, where sodas are often dispersed at self-serve
>  fountains, restaurants would be required to hand out cup sizes of 16 ounces
>  or less, regardless of whether a customer opts for a diet drink. But free
>  refills — and additional drink purchases — would be allowed.
>
>  Corner stores and bodegas would be affected if they are defined by the city
>  as "food service establishments." Those stores can most easily be
>  identified by the health department letter grades they are required to
>  display in their windows.
>
>  The mayor, who said he occasionally drank a diet soda "on a hot day,"
>  contested the idea that the plan would limit consumers' choices, saying the
>  option to buy more soda would always be available.
>
>  "Your argument, I guess, could be that it's a little less convenient to
>  have to carry two 16-ounce drinks to your seat in the movie theater rather
>  than one 32 ounce," Mr. Bloomberg said in a sarcastic tone. "I don't think
>  you can make the case that we're taking things away."
>
>  He also said he foresaw no adverse effect on local businesses, and he
>  suggested that restaurants could simply charge more for smaller drinks if
>  their sales were to drop.
>
>  The Bloomberg administration had made previous, unsuccessful efforts to
>  make soda consumption less appealing. The mayor supported a state tax on
>  sodas, but the measure died in Albany, and he tried to restrict the use of
>  food stamps to buy sodas, but the idea was rejected by federal regulators.
>
>  With the new proposal, City Hall is now trying to see how much it can
>  accomplish without requiring outside approval. Mayoral aides say they are
>  confident that they have the legal authority to restrict soda sales, based
>  on the city's jurisdiction over local eating establishments, the same
>  oversight that allows for the health department's letter-grade cleanliness
>  rating system for restaurants.
>
>  In interviews at the AMC Loews Village, in the East Village in Manhattan,
>  some filmgoers said restricting large soda sales made sense to them.
>
>  "I think it's a good idea," said Sara Gochenauer, 21, a personal assistant
>  from the Upper West Side. Soda, she said, "rots your teeth."
>
>  But others said consumers should be free to choose.
>
>  "If people want to drink 24 ounces, it's their decision," said Zara Atal,
>  20, a college student from the Upper East Side.
>
>  Lawrence Goins, 50, a postal worker who lives in Newark, took a more
>  pragmatic approach.
>
>  "Some of those movies are three, three and a half hours long," Mr. Goins
>  said. "You got to quench your thirst."
>
>  Colin Moynihan contributed reporting.
>
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