http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/232573-report-insurers-gave-us-chamber-100-million-to-fight-healthcare-reform
Report: Insurers gave US Chamber $100 million to fight healthcare reform
By Sam Baker - 06/13/12 01:38 PM ET
Insurance companies gave the U.S. Chamber of Commerce more than $100
million to fight Democrats' healthcare reform effort, according to a
report in National Journal.
America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the insurance industry's
leading trade group, did not directly launch an offensive against
healthcare reform during the year-long legislative debate over
healthcare. But AHIP quietly diverted millions of dollars to the
Chamber, which aggressively attacked the healthcare bill and Democrats
who supported it.
The transfers do not have to be disclosed as lobbying or political
contributions and are discernible only from a close review of tax
records.
Bloomberg initially broke the news that AHIP had transferred roughly
$88 million to the Chamber during 2009. National Journal's report says
AHIP gave the Chamber another $16 million in 2010, bringing the total
to more than $102 million.
On 6/30/12, lynnk05@aol.com <lynnk05@aol.com> wrote:
> Are you nuts? They wrote the damn thing!
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: How Many Rightwingers are Secretly Glad the Mandate was Upheld
> by the Supreme Court?
>
>
> it might have somethang to do with private health insurance companies
> ot liking Obamacare and we know the PUBS listens to corporations
> efore the public interest
> this kid wants to whoop PUBS but soooooo bad
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Re: How Many Rightwingers are Secretly Glad the Mandate was Upheld by the Supreme Court?
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Okay, when it comes to Donna, we been boyfriend, girlfriend for three
years, she kept complaining about not being able to post, she was
having fun ;o), she was lying, which is a strong word, she does that
to find out who people are, she has not been kicked out ;o) she's been
posting under two or three other names ;o)))))))
see, she never takes DONNA seriously and that's her sister
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Re: Obama Gives Us Largest Middle Class Tax Increase in U.S. History - Obamacare
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i just heard in England the waiting period for surgery was a month and
they finally have it down to two weeks and that was the biggest
complaint
well, he ain't going to live in England anytime soon
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Re: Hey Rightwingers! Do You Want to Buy a Cool Tea Shirt?
virtue, well that ain't Christian and i just askin, every time i get
proud, i stumble and i don't want you to trip and fall in public.
TOM, why ain't you posting more i miss your comedy
You need to post MORE!!!!!!!!!
he wants you to post more
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Fwd: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
> I agrée wit you KitA. Nothing wrong with arresting a lawyer if due process (i use this in a loose sense)is followed, we should only become worried if rights are violated. We are not beyond thé reach of thé law. That being said please dnt leav me in jail if i am arrested RoR
>
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> On 30 Jun,2012, at 15:47, waponakita@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Malawi.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
>> Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
>> To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>
>>
>>
>> Are the lawyers members of MLS?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>>> To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>>> Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>>
>>> Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>>>
>>> I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>>>
>>> The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>>>
>>>
>>> As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>>>
>>> It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>>>
>>> Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>>>
>>> I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>>>
>>> Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>>>
>>> Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>>>
>>> I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>>>
>>>
>>> If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Davis Njobvu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> I agrée wit you KitA. Nothing wrong with arresting a lawyer if due process (i use this in a loose sense)is followed, we should only become worried if rights are violated. We are not beyond thé reach of thé law. That being said please dnt leav me in jail if i am arrested RoR
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Jun,2012, at 15:47, waponakita@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Malawi.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
>> Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
>> To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>
>>
>>
>> Are the lawyers members of MLS?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>>> To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>>> Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>>
>>> Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>>>
>>> I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>>>
>>> The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>>>
>>>
>>> As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>>>
>>> It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>>>
>>> Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>>>
>>> I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>>>
>>> Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>>>
>>> Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>>>
>>> I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>>>
>>>
>>> If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Davis Njobvu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: Hey Rightwingers! Do You Want to Buy a Cool Tea Shirt?
Julia, is possessing a brain a waste of storage space in your case?
Tom
"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
The Shit has hit the Fan"
"Hiding in Honduras"
- Warren Zevon
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I don't really care if progressives have pain
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TOM, to you is pride the sin of sins
if you don't answer the question correctly he's goin to whoop your A$$
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Tom
"Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money,
The Shit has hit the Fan"
"Hiding in Honduras"
- Warren Zevon
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I don't really care if progressives have pain
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TOM, to you is pride the sin of sins
if you don't answer the question correctly he's goin to whoop your A$$
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Re: CENSORSHIP
Annie, I always thought of you as a fair and truthful woman, but you screwed the pooch this time. You know as well as I do that no one has banned Pred from the forum. All Pred did was change his S/N and it required approval from one of the powers that be - one of whom is you, to allow him to post again. Of course you have the right to ignore his posts. In fact, since you're on AOL you can put him on your spam list and never even see his name in your email list again.
It's odd that you would say his point of view is not legitimate because it is. It's his point of view. The fact that that you don't share that point of view is irrelevant. He speaks with more pure logic than most of the people here, IMHO. He doesn't have to rely on "feelings" like those of the left do.
Finally, oh yes, you HAVE blocked someone's entry. You blocked Pred's change of S/N request. He thought he was on the forum all this time, receiving our posts but not able to post back. On second thought, that's not blocking, that's censorship. And you IGNORED him.
Thanks to Lynne, who refused to ignore the problem,, he will hopefully soon be able to post with the rest of us again.
Perhaps it is you who should think. Since you are a co-owner of this forum, you should act like one.
In a message dated 6/30/2012 7:15:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Annie39@aol.com writes:
Space, for the last time, no one has banned Pred from this forum, unless VT did and I am not aware of it. If I ignore his posts, I have that right just as you do. If he posts a legit point of view, I read, but 99% of the time he just rants and raves nonsense. Oh, yeah, I have NEVER blocked anyone's entry. You ever think , because he changed his SN, that the powers that be look at him as a new poster and requires acceptance in joining this forum? Think, Space, you know I am not unfair.--In a message dated 6/30/2012 12:49:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SpaceRace65@aol.com writes:Now, Pred has, and I just ignored him-----------------------------------------Is what you're saying that you have taken it on yourself to ban Pred from this forum, the OPEN DEBATE (IMHO) forum for no particular reason other than you don't care for his point of view? That, Annie, is chicken shit. You can ignore him on the forum like you do some of the others. You don't have to block his entry.--In a message dated 6/29/2012 6:37:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Annie39@aol.com writes:I seriously doubt Donna is sad. She left the group on her own accord. Has not applied to be reinstated. Now, Pred has, and I just ignored him--In a message dated 6/29/2012 6:59:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lesjulia1@gmail.com writes:I hate to see anyone not being abled to post, we're all human
i know she's sad about it
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Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Sundu, then that smacks an abuse of office on the part of the arrestor, and i know Counsel Kamkwasi aint the type who will take it lightly. Watch this space!
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-----Original Message-----
From: "rkapindu@yahoo.com" <rkapindu@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:35:10
To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com<malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Corrigendum: misspelt Counsel Kamkwasi's name. My apologies.
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Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:32
To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
That's an indictment...where was the MLS? Where was the voice of Counsel Kamkawasi's learned colleagues, all the bright embers to boil the evil pot to melting point? Experience they say, is the best teacher...in all this, I suppose we are drawing useful lessons for the future.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Malawi.
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Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:35:10
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Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Corrigendum: misspelt Counsel Kamkwasi's name. My apologies.
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Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:32
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Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
That's an indictment...where was the MLS? Where was the voice of Counsel Kamkawasi's learned colleagues, all the bright embers to boil the evil pot to melting point? Experience they say, is the best teacher...in all this, I suppose we are drawing useful lessons for the future.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Corrigendum: misspelt Counsel Kamkwasi's name. My apologies.
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-----Original Message-----
From: rkapindu@yahoo.com
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:32
To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
That's an indictment...where was the MLS? Where was the voice of Counsel Kamkawasi's learned colleagues, all the bright embers to boil the evil pot to melting point? Experience they say, is the best teacher...in all this, I suppose we are drawing useful lessons for the future.
Sent from my Nokia smartphone
-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
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Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: rkapindu@yahoo.com
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:32
To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
That's an indictment...where was the MLS? Where was the voice of Counsel Kamkawasi's learned colleagues, all the bright embers to boil the evil pot to melting point? Experience they say, is the best teacher...in all this, I suppose we are drawing useful lessons for the future.
Sent from my Nokia smartphone
-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
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Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
That's an indictment...where was the MLS? Where was the voice of Counsel Kamkawasi's learned colleagues, all the bright embers to boil the evil pot to melting point? Experience they say, is the best teacher...in all this, I suppose we are drawing useful lessons for the future.
Sent from my Nokia smartphone
-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sundu
Sent: 30/06/2012, 22:17
To: MLS
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
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Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
sundu,
As I said "tizionanso za tsiku la dzana!"
Komanso muzimvera kalata ya Bwande pa MIJ around 07:00 a.m. Amakonda kunena za "about turn"!
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Sundu <sunduzwayo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Why wasn't so much ado made about the arrest of my friend Kamkwasi? And the ACB had the audacity of lying to the whole nation! I read the affidavit in support of the application for a WOA, and they lied, m'maso muli gwa! The affidavit contained nothing of the sort they were parroting about "in circumstances where corruption was suspected".
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:58
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Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
Sender: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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From: mandala mambulasa <mmambulasa@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:25:32
To: <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Are the lawyers members of MLS?
------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Wapona, I agree that unlike on those previous occasions, there is nothing thus far to suggest that the tenets of the Constitution are under threat. If at all the MLS can say anything at this stage, it might be that it has noticed that some of its members (or officers of the Court) have been arrested in the past few days; that it takes the arrest of any officer of the Court seriously by reason of the very nature of that position; especially where the allegations raise issues of moral turpitude or dishonesty, and that it shall continue to monitor developments in those matters closely...I guess...
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-----Original Message-----
From: waponakita@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: 30/06/2012, 21:47
To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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Are the lawyers members of MLS?
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: waponakita@yahoo.co.uk
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To: malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>
>Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>
>I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>
>The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>
>
>As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated...and the pot itself melted!
>
>It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>
>Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>
>I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>
>Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>
>Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>
>I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>
>
>If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Davis Njobvu
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
I agrée wit you KitA. Nothing wrong with arresting a lawyer if due process (i use this in a loose sense)is followed, we should only become worried if rights are violated. We are not beyond thé reach of thé law. That being said please dnt leav me in jail if i am arrested RoR
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On 30 Jun,2012, at 15:47, waponakita@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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> Are the lawyers members of MLS?
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> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>
>> Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>> To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>> Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>
>> Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>>
>> I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>>
>> The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>>
>>
>> As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>>
>> It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>>
>> Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>>
>> I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>>
>> Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>>
>> Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>>
>> I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>>
>>
>> If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Davis Njobvu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Indeed, is there any constitutional human right violation here, like being detained beyond 48 hours without proper remand as it were? As i understand the facts, the law hs been followed to the letter. Police bail granted instantly. What is the MLS going to talk about when the law has been followed? Just an arrest, and an instant release? With bail? Didnt i read somewhere that equality is treating equal things equally and unequal things unequally? Isnt it the case that we (all malawians) are prone to an arrest, an investigation, so long as the constitutional dictates are followed, who would complain? If i break or broke the law it follows that i must be investigated and arrested and tried if need be, whether am a lawyer or not, not so?
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> Are the lawyers members of MLS?
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> ------------------------------
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:19 AM PKT Moses Nkhono wrote:
>
>> Hmmmmmmmmmm, zovuta kukomenta izi!! One would just say I was there and am here!! Watch de space.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVIS NJOBVU <njobvudavis@yahoo.com>
>> To: maloya maloya <malawi_lawsociety@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012, 12:58
>> Subject: ARRESTS OF LAWYERS
>>
>> Colleagues,Bwanas and Donas
>>
>> I remember just before the abrupt change of Government earlier in the year, the Law Society protested loudly after a couple of lawyers were arrested.The Government then said the arrests were non political and instead,alleged certain offences which the people involved apparently had committed.
>>
>> The Malawi Law Society made statements,convened meetings and passed resolutions for full throttle action to stop what were then perceived to be attacks on the noble profession and wanton violations of human rights.As i said above,this was despite repeated pronouncements by the Government then that they had nothing to do with the arrests.
>>
>>
>> As a Society then we seemed to possess an ability to see through the veil often used by politicians to dress unconstitutional and unacceptable conduct to achieve their own selfish and mostly wicked goals.Needless to say, our voice as a Society was heard far and wide and in the scheme of things, we can proudly count ourselves as being amongst the bright embers that boiled the evil pot ceaselessly and mercilessly till all its contents evaporated....and the pot itself melted!
>>
>> It is now June 2012,a new Government is in power...I pick up the newspaper and I read about arrests of certain prominent individuals.Just as in February 2012, explanations are given that these individuals are suspected of certain offences committed against the people of the Republic of Malawi....very well.
>>
>> Howeve, I disturbed when I hear strong reports that both these people are holding offices which other persons are interested in entrusting to their persons or kinsmen.
>>
>> I am also disturbed when I see that both of these persons are lawyers
>>
>> Where are the statements from the Law Society,where are the meetings and where the resolutions?Where are the human rights activists,where the defenders of our Constitution?
>>
>> Mine is a call to all who are currently holding office in our Society and to all the members that we always ought to be vigilant,true to ourselves and consistent in our actions regardless of climate and interests.
>>
>> I will end with a simple caption found on a local bottle of chilli...'abale samalani'!
>>
>>
>> If anybody wants a lawyer to arrest propose my name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Davis Njobvu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Obama taxes the middleclass
I agree, I did not like the mandate idea at all. I am aware that there are many younger persons (most of the western world) that think they will never be ill and so they don't need insurance, which works well until something happens...diabetes, hit by a bus, snoking, skin cancer....most of these diseases are now beginning at earlier ages. I don't know why. Could be environmental. I do think something needed to be done, and at least we have a starting point at health insurance for everyone.
I don't know if you saw the NBC show last week when it was revealed that one hospital had the bill collector talk to the patients BEFORE any services were rendered. That's obnoxious, especially since medical care is the only thing we consume without knowing the price before we consume it. So, I am hopeful that the pressure from the IRS (who will collect the tax) will do some work on pricing. Just watching the billing from my very own surgery last month was enough to make anyone dizzy. I get a bill twice a week for the same services and always different amounts. When it stablizies I will pay it. It's a real mess.
It took us several hundred years to get the Constitution where it is, as well as civil rights and other issues...I think we have a lot of negotiations in the future. Obama will be remembered as the first president who got legislation passed allowing most Americans better health care. L
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Hi Lynne,
I was AGAINST the mandate..... precisely BECAUSE it served corporate interests.... forcing a lot of people, who can afford it, to buy PRIVATE INSURANCE.....
So, I'd say that Roberts stayed true to his "corporate" interests... made the insurance companies a boat-load of money....
Now, let's see if the "feds" can, in the future, arrange to lower private insurance premium costs... because not buying medical insurance at all is no longer an option for anyone of even moderate means....
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I was AGAINST the mandate..... precisely BECAUSE it served corporate interests.... forcing a lot of people, who can afford it, to buy PRIVATE INSURANCE.....
So, I'd say that Roberts stayed true to his "corporate" interests... made the insurance companies a boat-load of money....
Now, let's see if the "feds" can, in the future, arrange to lower private insurance premium costs... because not buying medical insurance at all is no longer an option for anyone of even moderate means....
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To answer jgg;s question: Justice Roberts - a conservative. He usually votes corporate interests. I was surprised that Kennedy did not vote with the liberals, but life is full of surprises.--
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haha, poor jinglenutz, always wrong about everything....face it, you murdoch ball lapping corporatist shill, the ACA is constitutional, the larger pool of insured will make insurance premiums go down in price, and the middleclass will have more disposable income, you stupid piece of shit, go to hell, fuck face....
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Of course Obama will pull a Bill Clinton and claim it is not a tax... Who is lying???
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