was Clinton a sinner?
On May 14, 3:40 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i like the guy, to tell you the truth, i rather have a sinner in the
> White House than some self-righteous judger
>
> On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Yeah, well I owe him one! Hes a good guy, just made some bad choices.
>
> > On May 14, 3:26 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> i didn't know he was a DEM i thought for sure he was PUB
>
> >> sorry
>
> >> On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > I dont want to read any more negativity about John Edwards, Thank you!
>
> >> > On May 14, 3:21 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> could someone tell me why this isn't an interesting topic
>
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> >> >> > Rachel (Bunny) Lambert Mellon, the widow of the banking heir and
> >> >> > philanthropist Paul Mellon.
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> >> >> > SHE almost squeaked through unscathed. A product of a generation of
> >> >> > patrician Americans who lived by the dictum that a woman's name ought
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > appear in print only at birth, marriage and death, Rachel (Bunny)
> >> >> > Lambert
> >> >> > Mellon, the widow of the banking heir and philanthropist Paul
> >> >> > Mellon<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/paul_mel...>,
> >> >> > made it almost to her centenary little known outside her rarefied
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> >> >> > *RUBBING ELBOWS* Mrs. Mellon with Jacqueline Kennedy in 1961.
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> >> >> > To those familiar with a woman who is invariably, although not quite
> >> >> > accurately, described as reclusive, few things could be more
> >> >> > surprising
> >> >> > than the fact that she should suddenly, at 101, find herself thrust
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > unwelcome limelight, sharing tabloid space with John Travolta and his
> >> >> > reported massage-table antics.
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> >> >> > Unwittingly drawn in 2010 into a $59 million Ponzi
> >> >> > scheme<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/frauds...>orchestrated
> >> >> > by Kenneth I. Starr, a New York investment adviser, (who also
> >> >> > bilked Mike Nichols, Uma Thurman and Jacob Arabo, better known as
> >> >> > Jacob
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Jeweler), Mrs. Mellon is now a central figure in the trial of John
> >> >> > Edwards<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edw...>,
> >> >> > who is accused of illegally using $725,000 she gave him to hide his
> >> >> > mistress at the height of the 2008 presidential campaign.
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> >> >> > Of all the things money can buy, Mrs. Mellon's late husband once
> >> >> > remarked,
> >> >> > privacy "is the most valuable asset." The decorum Mrs. Mellon prized
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > preserved came to be emblematized by a phrase from a 1969 interview
> >> >> > she
> >> >> > gave to The New York Times: "Nothing should be noticed."
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> >> >> > Never mind that Mrs. Mellon, an avid gardener, was talking about
> >> >> > landscape
> >> >> > effects. The observation was interpreted as a personal credo.
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> >> >> > In reality, Mrs. Mellon has long been an object of fascinated notice.
> >> >> > Born
> >> >> > into a moneyed Social Register background (her father was president
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Gillette Safety Razor Company; her grandfather, a chemist who
> >> >> > invented
> >> >> > Listerine), she, with her second marriage to Paul Mellon, married
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > wealth even greater than her own.
>
> >> >> > Listerine was marketed as a cure for social embarrassment, and that,
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > turned out, was something Mrs. Mellon avoided throughout her long
> >> >> > life.
> >> >> > Because she was less socially invisible than impeccable in her
> >> >> > refinement,
> >> >> > the trial testimony about her friendship with an ambitious political
> >> >> > comer
> >> >> > struck a weirdly dissonant note. Among the subtle surprises that
> >> >> > trial
> >> >> > testimony revealed was that, though keen to cultivate Mrs. Mellon's
> >> >> > patronage and affection, Mr. Edwards had missed some of the basic
> >> >> > lessons
> >> >> > of the social climber: never bothering, for instance, to learn her
> >> >> > children's names. Mrs. Mellon, it should be noted, is accused of
> >> >> > nothing
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the case. She even paid gift tax on the money she gave Mr. Edwards.
>
> >> >> > For decades, the Mellons were not merely noticeable but cynosures in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > upper levels of American society, important political patrons and, as
> >> >> > philanthropists, vastly generous. They enjoyed a range of
> >> >> > acquaintances
> >> >> > wider and more catholic than is typical for those in their milieu
> >> >> > (among
> >> >> > Mrs. Mellon's friends — J. Carter Brown, the aristocratic head of the
> >> >> > National Gallery; Robert Isabell, the party planner; Bette Midler,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > Whoopi Goldberg) and employed hundreds of workers at the residences
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > couple maintained in New York, Paris (recently sold), Antigua (on the
> >> >> > market for $14.5 million), Cape Cod (for sale for $28.7 million),
> >> >> > Nantucket
> >> >> > and on a 4,000-acre farm in Fauquier County in Virginia, where Mrs.
> >> >> > Mellon
> >> >> > built a library to house her collection of over 10,000 rare botanical
> >> >> > volumes.
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> >> >> > "People have this idea of her as a recluse, but she's had a full
> >> >> > life,"
> >> >> > said James Reginato, a special correspondent at Vanity Fair, who was
> >> >> > invited by Mrs. Mellon to write about her Virginia gardens in 2010.
> >> >> > "She
> >> >> > hasn't been out and about as much as you might expect a socialite to
> >> >> > be,
> >> >> > but she's done exactly what she wanted. She never wanted to bother
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > lot of boring people, and when you have your own airport, it helps."
>
> >> >> > Mr. Reginato was referring to the airstrip at Oak Springs Farm, where
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Mellons came and went by private jet and where she occasionally
> >> >> > received
> >> >> > Mr. Edwards, a man who, as the actor Frank Langella wrote in a
> >> >> > recently
> >> >> > published memoir, "Dropped Names," was "so attractive" in his white
> >> >> > shirt
> >> >> > with rolled-up sleeves and white trousers, that he somehow slipped
> >> >> > past
> >> >> > her
> >> >> > reserve.
>
> >> >> > "You know I'm weak on good looks," Mrs. Mellon told Mr. Langella, who
> >> >> > first
> >> >> > made
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