Re: Grandparents want daughters to freeze eggs

I saw it a few months ago. slow poke!

On May 14, 3:38 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
> defects when  using artificial insemination
>
> ----
>
> didn't know that
>
> have you seen the doc film gave you last night
>
> On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Its crazy. Kind of makes me very sad.
>
> > We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
> > defects when  using artificial insemination.
>
> > On May 14, 3:31 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> why would grandparents wish their daughters freeze their eggs
>
> >> i don't have a clue
>
> >> On 5/14/12, Leader of 71 <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >    So Eager for Grandchildren, They're Paying the Egg-Freezing Clinic
> >> >  James Estrin/The New York Times
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> >> > 'It's a family decision. Because you're talking about your future
> >> > family.
> >> > Grandchildren are really important to parents. Everybody wants to
> >> > experience being a grandparent.' *JENNIFER HAYES*, with her mother,
> >> > Gloria,
> >> > left, who paid for her egg freezing, in Darien, Conn.
> >> >  By ELISSA
> >> > GOOTMAN<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/elissa_g...>
> >> > Published:
> >> > May 13, 2012
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> >> > At the Colorado Center for Reproductive
> >> > Medicine<http://www.colocrm.com/Home.aspx>,
> >> > a popular destination for women hoping to preserve their fertility by
> >> > freezing their eggs, Dr. William Schoolcraft, the founder and medical
> >> > director, has started to notice something different: more of the women
> >> > are
> >> > arriving with company.
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> >> > "I see these patients come in, and they're with two elderly people, and
> >> > I'm
> >> > like, 'What the hey?' " Dr. Schoolcraft said.
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> >> > The gray-haired entourages, it turns out, are the parents, tagging along
> >> > to
> >> > lend support — emotional and often financial — as their daughters turn
> >> > to
> >> > the fledgling field of egg freezing to improve their chances of having
> >> > children later on, when they are ready to start a family.
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> >> > The technology to freeze a woman's delicate eggs to be used later, when
> >> > the
> >> > eggs being released by her ovaries may no longer be viable, has improved
> >> > sharply over the past decade. There currently is no single source of
> >> > data
> >> > on the number of women who are choosing to freeze their eggs, but
> >> > doctors
> >> > in the United States say the practice is slowly growing.
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> >> > The procedure remains expensive, generally costing between $8,000 and
> >> > $18,000. And because it offers no guarantees and is still considered
> >> > experimental by the American Society for Reproductive
> >> > Medicine<http://www.asrm.org/>,
> >> > a professional association, it can seem to some like an extravagant
> >> > gamble.
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> >> > But it is a gamble that many would-be grandparents are willing to take
> >> > with
> >> > their daughters, even if it means navigating a potentially uncomfortable
> >> > conversation.
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> >> > "By the time Allison was 35, I felt the clock was tick-tick-ticking,"
> >> > said
> >> > Candace Kramer, 61, whose daughter took her up on the suggestion to
> >> > freeze
> >> > her eggs — and her offer to pay half the bill. "I viewed it as opening
> >> > up
> >> > an opportunity for her."
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> >> > Such arrangements are not unusual, said Dr. Daniel Shapiro, the medical
> >> > director of Reproductive Biology
> >> > Associates<http://rba-online.com/ivf/index.php>of Atlanta. He estimated
> >> > that
> >> > at least three quarters of his center's
> >> > egg-freezing patients — more than 100 over the past two years — have
> >> > parents who paid part or all of the bill.
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> >> > "I was surprised at first about the parental involvement, but now I
> >> > expect
> >> > it to be the case," said Dr. Shapiro, adding that many patients tell
> >> > him,
> >> > "My parents want me to have this as a gift."
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> >> > His center, along with an offshoot called My Egg Bank North
> >> > America<http://www.myeggbank.com/donor-eggs/index.php>,
> >> > are trying to make it easier, and less uncomfortable, for family members
> >> > to
> >> > pay for the procedure, marketing the "Gift of Hope": a gift certificate
> >> > and
> >> > a silver charm bracelet for the recipients.
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> >> > Rachel Lehmann-Haupt <http://www.lehmannhaupt.com>, author of "In Her
> >> > Own
> >> > Sweet Time: Unexpected Adventures in Finding Love, Commitment and
> >> > Motherhood," described conversations about fertility between women and
> >> > their parents as "the postmodern, adult birds-and-the-bees talk."
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> >> > She added, "There is a very fine line between concern and pressure."
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> >> > Gloria Hayes, who lives in Darien, Conn., bit her tongue for months
> >> > after
> >> > hearing about egg freezing, hoping that her daughter Jennifer, a
> >> > restaurateur in Telluride, Colo., would broach the topic herself.
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> >> > "I just didn't feel right approaching her about it, because it's almost
> >> > a
> >> > criticism in a way — 'You're getting old,' " Mrs. Hayes said. When
> >> > Jennifer
> >> > finally floated the idea, "I was thrilled," Mrs. Hayes said. "I thought
> >> > this could just take a lot of the stress off her."
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> >> > Mrs. Hayes and her husband offered to pay for the procedure, but
> >> > Jennifer
> >> > Hayes was initially reluctant to accept the money.
>
> >> > "My mom said to me, 'Do you think we'd rather have this money sitting in
> >> > an
> >> > account or have a potential grandchild someday?' " she recalled. "When
> >> > she
> >> > positioned it that way, it somehow just changed the way I felt."
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> >> > "It's a family decision," said Ms. Hayes, 36, who now blogs about her
> >> > experience at RetrieveFreezeRelax.com <http://retrievefreezerelax.com/>.
> >> > "Because you're talking about your future family. Grandchildren are
> >> > really
> >> > important to parents. Everybody wants to experience being a
> >> > grandparent."
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> >> > Susan Lorman raised the idea of egg freezing when her daughter
> >> > Stephanie, a
> >> > sales representative in Los Angeles, was over for dinner shortly before
> >> > her
> >> > 35th birthday. Stephanie had just broken up with the latest in a string
> >> > of
> >> > boyfriends and was in tears, distraught over what-if situations that
> >> > involved losing her shot at motherhood.
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> >> > Paying
> >> > the Egg-Freezing Clinic.
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