Re: School Shootings and Our Change from Sacred Authority to Secular Authority

Worshipping God helped us make better choices thatn is hapening today
in the secular world that denies God.
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do you call persecuting homosexuals and killing muzzies for israel
better choices?\
as America becomes more secular the zionist stranglehold on our
government will end and israel will be left to defend itself.

On Dec 16, 3:06 pm, lew <lewc...@aol.com> wrote:
> Worshipping God helped us make better choices thatn is hapening today
> in the secular world that denies God.
>
> We have had 7 shootingsin the  United States within the last 12
> months.  Obama's class warfare - union thuggery - high unemplyment of
> thenty agers are the cause and chunks of time spent by many playing
> eclectronic games kiling people by  the scores.
>
> On Dec 16, 1:32 pm, Larry Talbot <larry.tal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > exactly Lynn.
> >  From: Anni...@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:45:45 -0500
> > Subject: Re: School Shootings and Our Change from Sacred Authority to Secular Authority
> > To: opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
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> > God gave us free will. We make our own choices, have to
> > answer for them later
>
> > In a message dated 12/16/2012 11:32:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>
> > larry.tal...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >   Here comes the religious simple minded bullshit from Lew
> > s
> >   american stinker.
>
> > God has nothing to do with it. .If God could
> >   have stopped this massacre then why doesn't he stop the pervert priests from
> >   buggering children?
>
> >   > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 04:08:30
> >   -0800> Subject: School Shootings and Our Change from Sacred Authority
>
> >   to Secular Authority> From: lewc...@aol.com
> > > To:
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> >   opendebateforum@googlegroups.com
>
> > > School Shootings and Our
>
> >   Change from Sacred Authority to Secular> Authority
>
> > > Sam
> >   Holliday
> > > americanthinker.com
>
> > > The tragic shooting at
>
> >   the grade school in Newton, Conn. will result> in calls for gun
>
> >   control, tighter security, guards in schools, new> laws that some think
>
> >   might have prevented the shooting, more money for> mental health
>
> >   programs, post-traumatic stress counseling, and other> things. Yet
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> >   these are only band-aids which do not address the basic> cause of this
>
> >   tragedy. There is one cause and one practical solution.
>
> > > Cause: The decline in Sacred Authority since the 1950s and the
> >   attempt
> > > to rely on rules, regulations, and laws to control behavior.
> >   Everyone
> > > agrees that this has occurred, yet there is no agreement on
> >   whether it
> > > is positive (progress) or negative (decline).
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> > > Solution: To put more effort into developing, supporting, and
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> >   maintaining Sacred Authority. Note that this runs counter to what
>
> >   postmodernists (progressives) want.
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> > > The culture of the United
>
> >   States has dramatically changed in the last> fifty years. Many of these
>
> >   changes have been positive, yet we need to> recognize that there is
>
> >   also a dark side. As it all human affairs> there is a need to keep Yin
>
> >   and Yang in balance. The senseless killing> in Newton should be a
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> >   wakeup call for all Americans. The correct> relationship of Secular
>
> >   Authority and Sacred Authority needs to be> examined.
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> >   Secular Authority (rules, regulations, and laws established and
>
> >   administered by government) provides the stability essential for a
>
> >   framework of order. Without the enforcement of laws, there is anarchy.
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> >   With such enforcement of laws there can be either order or the
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> >   possibility of tyranny.
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> > > Sacred Authority is what shapes the
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> >   inner compass of individuals so> that each person can make judgments
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> >   that will result in good, right,> moral, compassionate, and just
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> >   behavior. While religious doctrine and> teaching are among the most
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> >   common ways for individuals to internalize> values and attitudes, which
>
> >   then become the Sacred Authority of an> individual, there are many
>
> >   other ways an individual gets his/her inner> compass. Morality and
>
> >   ethics are obvious ways. An individual's inner> compass can come from
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> >   words and actions of family, friends, enemies,> associates, etc. It can
>
> >   come from education, entertainment, sports,> reading, or experience.
>
> >   Postmodernists (progressives) want to control> behavior with rules,
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> >   regulations and laws, i.e. Secular Authority, and> do not recognize
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> >   Sacred Authority as being of equal importance.
>
> > > Developing,
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> >   supporting, and maintaining Sacred Authority requires> customs and
>
> >   traditions that sanction discrimination against behavior> that is bad,
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> >   wrong, immoral, untoward, and unjust. This is both> judgmental and runs
>
> >   counter to many interpretations of the legal
>
> > > concept of
> >   "rights".
>
> > > One definition of the word "sacred" is: "devoted or
> >   dedicated to a
> > > deity or to some religious purpose." This often results
> >   in
> > > misunderstanding the meaning of Sacred Authority. "Sacred" also
> >   means:
> > > "devoted or dedicated to, and reverence for some idea,
> >   conviction,
> > > principal or moral code." This has always been the meaning
> >   of the word
> > > "sacred" ias regards Sacred Authority. It is reflected in
> >   the customs
> > > and traditions of humans in that they are more than
>
> >   animals responding
>
> > > to basic instincts and external stimuli.
>
> > > Today we are dominated by a mindset that sees everything in terms
> >   of
> > > Secular Authority. There is no mantra more accepted than "Rule of
> >   law,
> > > not rule by men". Yet this was not the vision of our Founders.
> >   They
> > > wanted our country to be governed by common citizens with civic
> >   virtue
> > > and strong moral character. The question they wanted to be
> >   asked
> > > before any decision was: "Is it right?" -- Not "Is it legal?",
> >   not
> > > "Who gets what, when and how?", not "Does it make me feel
> >   good?".
>
> > > The failure of pure Secular Authority could not be
>
> >   more obvious. Will> we do what is necessary to renew Sacred Authority
> >   in our country?
>
> > > Dr. Sam Holliday, Director, Armiger Cromwell
>
> >   Center is a graduate of> West Point, Univ. of Pittsburgh, and Univ. of
> >   South Carolina.
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