Re: Grandparents want daughters to freeze eggs

Y DIDN'T you tell me

On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivia07@gmail.com> wrote:
> I saw it a few months ago. slow poke!
>
> On May 14, 3:38 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
>> defects when using artificial insemination
>>
>> ----
>>
>> didn't know that
>>
>> have you seen the doc film gave you last night
>>
>> On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> > Its crazy. Kind of makes me very sad.
>>
>> > We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
>> > defects when using artificial insemination.
>>
>> > On May 14, 3:31 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> why would grandparents wish their daughters freeze their eggs
>>
>> >> i don't have a clue
>>
>> >> On 5/14/12, Leader of 71 <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> > So Eager for Grandchildren, They're Paying the Egg-Freezing Clinic
>> >> > James Estrin/The New York Times
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>> >> > 'It's a family decision. Because you're talking about your future
>> >> > family.
>> >> > Grandchildren are really important to parents. Everybody wants to
>> >> > experience being a grandparent.' *JENNIFER HAYES*, with her mother,
>> >> > Gloria,
>> >> > left, who paid for her egg freezing, in Darien, Conn.
>> >> > By ELISSA
>> >> > GOOTMAN<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/elissa_g...>
>> >> > Published:
>> >> > May 13, 2012
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>> >> > At the Colorado Center for Reproductive
>> >> > Medicine<http://www.colocrm.com/Home.aspx>,
>> >> > a popular destination for women hoping to preserve their fertility by
>> >> > freezing their eggs, Dr. William Schoolcraft, the founder and medical
>> >> > director, has started to notice something different: more of the
>> >> > women
>> >> > are
>> >> > arriving with company.
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>> >> > "I see these patients come in, and they're with two elderly people,
>> >> > and
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > like, 'What the hey?' " Dr. Schoolcraft said.
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>> >> > The gray-haired entourages, it turns out, are the parents, tagging
>> >> > along
>> >> > to
>> >> > lend support — emotional and often financial — as their daughters
>> >> > turn
>> >> > to
>> >> > the fledgling field of egg freezing to improve their chances of
>> >> > having
>> >> > children later on, when they are ready to start a family.
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>> >> > The technology to freeze a woman's delicate eggs to be used later,
>> >> > when
>> >> > the
>> >> > eggs being released by her ovaries may no longer be viable, has
>> >> > improved
>> >> > sharply over the past decade. There currently is no single source of
>> >> > data
>> >> > on the number of women who are choosing to freeze their eggs, but
>> >> > doctors
>> >> > in the United States say the practice is slowly growing.
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>> >> > The procedure remains expensive, generally costing between $8,000 and
>> >> > $18,000. And because it offers no guarantees and is still considered
>> >> > experimental by the American Society for Reproductive
>> >> > Medicine<http://www.asrm.org/>,
>> >> > a professional association, it can seem to some like an extravagant
>> >> > gamble.
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>> >> > But it is a gamble that many would-be grandparents are willing to
>> >> > take
>> >> > with
>> >> > their daughters, even if it means navigating a potentially
>> >> > uncomfortable
>> >> > conversation.
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>> >> > "By the time Allison was 35, I felt the clock was tick-tick-ticking,"
>> >> > said
>> >> > Candace Kramer, 61, whose daughter took her up on the suggestion to
>> >> > freeze
>> >> > her eggs — and her offer to pay half the bill. "I viewed it as
>> >> > opening
>> >> > up
>> >> > an opportunity for her."
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>> >> > Such arrangements are not unusual, said Dr. Daniel Shapiro, the
>> >> > medical
>> >> > director of Reproductive Biology
>> >> > Associates<http://rba-online.com/ivf/index.php>of Atlanta. He
>> >> > estimated
>> >> > that
>> >> > at least three quarters of his center's
>> >> > egg-freezing patients — more than 100 over the past two years — have
>> >> > parents who paid part or all of the bill.
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>> >> > "I was surprised at first about the parental involvement, but now I
>> >> > expect
>> >> > it to be the case," said Dr. Shapiro, adding that many patients tell
>> >> > him,
>> >> > "My parents want me to have this as a gift."
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>> >> > His center, along with an offshoot called My Egg Bank North
>> >> > America<http://www.myeggbank.com/donor-eggs/index.php>,
>> >> > are trying to make it easier, and less uncomfortable, for family
>> >> > members
>> >> > to
>> >> > pay for the procedure, marketing the "Gift of Hope": a gift
>> >> > certificate
>> >> > and
>> >> > a silver charm bracelet for the recipients.
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>> >> > Rachel Lehmann-Haupt <http://www.lehmannhaupt.com>, author of "In Her
>> >> > Own
>> >> > Sweet Time: Unexpected Adventures in Finding Love, Commitment and
>> >> > Motherhood," described conversations about fertility between women
>> >> > and
>> >> > their parents as "the postmodern, adult birds-and-the-bees talk."
>>
>> >> > She added, "There is a very fine line between concern and pressure."
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>> >> > Gloria Hayes, who lives in Darien, Conn., bit her tongue for months
>> >> > after
>> >> > hearing about egg freezing, hoping that her daughter Jennifer, a
>> >> > restaurateur in Telluride, Colo., would broach the topic herself.
>>
>> >> > "I just didn't feel right approaching her about it, because it's
>> >> > almost
>> >> > a
>> >> > criticism in a way — 'You're getting old,' " Mrs. Hayes said. When
>> >> > Jennifer
>> >> > finally floated the idea, "I was thrilled," Mrs. Hayes said. "I
>> >> > thought
>> >> > this could just take a lot of the stress off her."
>>
>> >> > Mrs. Hayes and her husband offered to pay for the procedure, but
>> >> > Jennifer
>> >> > Hayes was initially reluctant to accept the money.
>>
>> >> > "My mom said to me, 'Do you think we'd rather have this money sitting
>> >> > in
>> >> > an
>> >> > account or have a potential grandchild someday?' " she recalled.
>> >> > "When
>> >> > she
>> >> > positioned it that way, it somehow just changed the way I felt."
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>> >> > "It's a family decision," said Ms. Hayes, 36, who now blogs about her
>> >> > experience at RetrieveFreezeRelax.com
>> >> > <http://retrievefreezerelax.com/>.
>> >> > "Because you're talking about your future family. Grandchildren are
>> >> > really
>> >> > important to parents. Everybody wants to experience being a
>> >> > grandparent."
>>
>> >> > Susan Lorman raised the idea of egg freezing when her daughter
>> >> > Stephanie, a
>> >> > sales representative in Los Angeles, was over for dinner shortly
>> >> > before
>> >> > her
>> >> > 35th birthday. Stephanie had just broken up with the latest in a
>> >> > string
>> >> > of
>> >> > boyfriends and was in tears, distraught over what-if situations that
>> >> > involved losing her shot at motherhood.
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