Re: Grandparents want daughters to freeze eggs

We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
defects when using artificial insemination

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didn't know that

have you seen the doc film gave you last night



On 5/14/12, OccupySpring <soprano.olivia07@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its crazy. Kind of makes me very sad.
>
> We already KNOW that there is a large increase for severe birth
> defects when using artificial insemination.
>
> On May 14, 3:31 pm, EARL DOYLE <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> why would grandparents wish their daughters freeze their eggs
>>
>> i don't have a clue
>>
>> On 5/14/12, Leader of 71 <lesjul...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > So Eager for Grandchildren, They're Paying the Egg-Freezing Clinic
>> > James Estrin/The New York Times
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>> > 'It's a family decision. Because you're talking about your future
>> > family.
>> > Grandchildren are really important to parents. Everybody wants to
>> > experience being a grandparent.' *JENNIFER HAYES*, with her mother,
>> > Gloria,
>> > left, who paid for her egg freezing, in Darien, Conn.
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>> > May 13, 2012
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>> > At the Colorado Center for Reproductive
>> > Medicine<http://www.colocrm.com/Home.aspx>,
>> > a popular destination for women hoping to preserve their fertility by
>> > freezing their eggs, Dr. William Schoolcraft, the founder and medical
>> > director, has started to notice something different: more of the women
>> > are
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>> > "I see these patients come in, and they're with two elderly people, and
>> > I'm
>> > like, 'What the hey?' " Dr. Schoolcraft said.
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>> > The gray-haired entourages, it turns out, are the parents, tagging along
>> > to
>> > lend support — emotional and often financial — as their daughters turn
>> > to
>> > the fledgling field of egg freezing to improve their chances of having
>> > children later on, when they are ready to start a family.
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>> > The technology to freeze a woman's delicate eggs to be used later, when
>> > the
>> > eggs being released by her ovaries may no longer be viable, has improved
>> > sharply over the past decade. There currently is no single source of
>> > data
>> > on the number of women who are choosing to freeze their eggs, but
>> > doctors
>> > in the United States say the practice is slowly growing.
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>> > The procedure remains expensive, generally costing between $8,000 and
>> > $18,000. And because it offers no guarantees and is still considered
>> > experimental by the American Society for Reproductive
>> > Medicine<http://www.asrm.org/>,
>> > a professional association, it can seem to some like an extravagant
>> > gamble.
>>
>> > But it is a gamble that many would-be grandparents are willing to take
>> > with
>> > their daughters, even if it means navigating a potentially uncomfortable
>> > conversation.
>>
>> > "By the time Allison was 35, I felt the clock was tick-tick-ticking,"
>> > said
>> > Candace Kramer, 61, whose daughter took her up on the suggestion to
>> > freeze
>> > her eggs — and her offer to pay half the bill. "I viewed it as opening
>> > up
>> > an opportunity for her."
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>> > Such arrangements are not unusual, said Dr. Daniel Shapiro, the medical
>> > director of Reproductive Biology
>> > Associates<http://rba-online.com/ivf/index.php>of Atlanta. He estimated
>> > that
>> > at least three quarters of his center's
>> > egg-freezing patients — more than 100 over the past two years — have
>> > parents who paid part or all of the bill.
>>
>> > "I was surprised at first about the parental involvement, but now I
>> > expect
>> > it to be the case," said Dr. Shapiro, adding that many patients tell
>> > him,
>> > "My parents want me to have this as a gift."
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>> > His center, along with an offshoot called My Egg Bank North
>> > America<http://www.myeggbank.com/donor-eggs/index.php>,
>> > are trying to make it easier, and less uncomfortable, for family members
>> > to
>> > pay for the procedure, marketing the "Gift of Hope": a gift certificate
>> > and
>> > a silver charm bracelet for the recipients.
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>> > Rachel Lehmann-Haupt <http://www.lehmannhaupt.com>, author of "In Her
>> > Own
>> > Sweet Time: Unexpected Adventures in Finding Love, Commitment and
>> > Motherhood," described conversations about fertility between women and
>> > their parents as "the postmodern, adult birds-and-the-bees talk."
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>> > She added, "There is a very fine line between concern and pressure."
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>> > Gloria Hayes, who lives in Darien, Conn., bit her tongue for months
>> > after
>> > hearing about egg freezing, hoping that her daughter Jennifer, a
>> > restaurateur in Telluride, Colo., would broach the topic herself.
>>
>> > "I just didn't feel right approaching her about it, because it's almost
>> > a
>> > criticism in a way — 'You're getting old,' " Mrs. Hayes said. When
>> > Jennifer
>> > finally floated the idea, "I was thrilled," Mrs. Hayes said. "I thought
>> > this could just take a lot of the stress off her."
>>
>> > Mrs. Hayes and her husband offered to pay for the procedure, but
>> > Jennifer
>> > Hayes was initially reluctant to accept the money.
>>
>> > "My mom said to me, 'Do you think we'd rather have this money sitting in
>> > an
>> > account or have a potential grandchild someday?' " she recalled. "When
>> > she
>> > positioned it that way, it somehow just changed the way I felt."
>>
>> > "It's a family decision," said Ms. Hayes, 36, who now blogs about her
>> > experience at RetrieveFreezeRelax.com <http://retrievefreezerelax.com/>.
>> > "Because you're talking about your future family. Grandchildren are
>> > really
>> > important to parents. Everybody wants to experience being a
>> > grandparent."
>>
>> > Susan Lorman raised the idea of egg freezing when her daughter
>> > Stephanie, a
>> > sales representative in Los Angeles, was over for dinner shortly before
>> > her
>> > 35th birthday. Stephanie had just broken up with the latest in a string
>> > of
>> > boyfriends and was in tears, distraught over what-if situations that
>> > involved losing her shot at motherhood.
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